NVIDIA ‘Ampere’ 8nm Graphics Cards

[Simon Belmont]

Mandatory viewing for those interested in the Sept 1st Nvidia Ampere event:

you may just learn something

PC gaming is declining fast because of greed. Nvidia 3000 series pricing will be the nail in the coffin especially after the pandemic and crash of the economy. Not just ours ,but everyone's market. They are helping Sony PS5 sales for sure.

 

[JediFragger]

NewZoo predicts that the PC gaming market will grow 3.5% on an annual basis between now and 2022, reaching $39.5 billion within three years.

 

[Richdog]

No....Thats ONE article, like i said. take the hint. Go google an educate yourself. I'm not your dad.

I have of course already googled it and the articles I read do not support what you say. Telling someone to go and google the facts that you cannot adequately present is a classic sign of someone who can't support their argument, which in your case was: "Turing had poor sales", which is factually incorrect. In light of that, let just agree to disagree.

 

[five8five]

Couple of tweets from kopite7kimi about the size of 3080 vram.

Founders 10GB, Custom 10 & 20GB

PG132-SKU20 is RTX 3080 20G from AIC

FE 10G
AIC 10/20G

https://mobile.twitter.com/kopite7kimi/status/1295520974796816384

 

[Simon Belmont]

Predictions lol Greed will make them money in the short term. Even before the pandemic PC market has be declining.

 

[labbby]

Couple of tweets from kopite7kimi about the size of 3080 vram.

Founders 10GB, Custom 10 & 20GB





https://mobile.twitter.com/kopite7kimi/status/1295520974796816384

I did wonder if the custom cards would come with different ram variants

 

[five8five]

I did wonder if the custom cards would come with different ram variants

It's interesting if true, that Nvidia are allowing their partners to make the big money

 

[NZXT30]

PC gaming is declining fast because of greed. Nvidia 3000 series pricing will be the nail in the coffin especially after the pandemic and crash of the economy. Not just ours ,but everyone's market. They are helping Sony PS5 sales for sure.

I know we all want cheaper gpus but lets not make up total non-sense. PC gaming has been growing at a record pace and thats why hardware companies are releasing expensive products and posting record breaking profits. Consoles on the other hand have stagnated since the early 2000s. I hope next gen consoles stall the growth of pc gaming a bit because its been proven detrimental to consumers.
https://www.ign.com/articles/three-billion-people-worldwide-now-play-video-games-new-report-shows

 

[labbby]

It's interesting if true, that Nvidia are allowing their partners to make the big money

Didn’t this used to be a thing years ago ? Memory of a gold fish here..

well it’s a good plan as they can show a lower RRP when they announce the cards

 

[Stu999]

I did wonder if the custom cards would come with different ram variants

Would be interesting to see all of this person’s ‘leaks’ versus the reality once the cards arrive.

 

[beany_bot]

I know we all want cheaper gpus but lets not make up total non-sense. PC gaming has been growing at a record pace
https://www.ign.com/articles/three-billion-people-worldwide-now-play-video-games-new-report-shows

absolute rubbish. GAMING has been increasing. dedicated high end PC gaming has been in decline. Sure more people are playing Candy crush on their web browser, and asian populations are playing things like DOTA and LOL on 15 year old PC's with GTX 480's in them. and so on. But the amount of "PC gamers" (buying modern GPUs and gaming mice, keyboards etc) it absolutely in decline.

 

[Simon Belmont]

absolute rubbish. GAMING has been increasing. dedicated high end PC gaming has been in decline. Sure more people are playing Candy crush on their web browser, and asian populations are playing things like DOTA and LOL on 15 year old PC's with GTX 480's in them. and so on. But the amount of "PC gamers" (buying modern GPUs and gaming mice, keyboards etc) it absolutely in decline.

+1

 

[ljt]

I'd love to know the amounts of units actually sold for Turing and Pascal over the same time period. I have a niggling feeling the Turing didn't actually sell as well as Pascal.

Turing may have made a lot of money for Nvidia, but I think it was down to higher profit per unit, rather than total number of units sold.

It's a shame when a tech company goes for profit per unit over actually wanting to get their product into the hands of as many people as possible by pricing lower and selling more. Isn't that what the point of tech is? To give as many people the opportunity to use something you've created, rather than limit it to only those who are willing to pay exorbitant prices for it.

 

[labbby]

Would be interesting to see all of this person’s ‘leaks’ versus the reality once the cards arrive.

yeah, it would be interesting.. although I reckon they just guess loads because at some point they will get something right

 

[NZXT30]

absolute rubbish. GAMING has been increasing. dedicated high end PC gaming has been in decline. Sure more people are playing Candy crush on their web browser, and asian populations are playing things like DOTA and LOL on 15 year old PC's with GTX 480's in them. and so on. But the amount of "PC gamers" (buying modern GPUs and gaming mice, keyboards etc) it absolutely in decline.

That's what stagnation means the video gaming industry growing because of the 1.5 billion pc gamers and mobile gaming while console gaming userbase has remained the same since 2005. "Of those nearly 3.1 billion players, only about 8% are dedicated console consumers"
https://www.ign.com/articles/three-billion-people-worldwide-now-play-video-games-new-report-shows

Also found these after a few minutes search:

PC is now Ubisoft's most lucrative platform
https://www.tweaktown.com/news/66644/pc-now-ubisofts-lucrative-platform/index.html

PC gaming, driven by its 1.3 billion players, will grow 4.8% year on year in 2020
https://venturebeat.com/2020/05/08/...rs-will-spend-159-3-billion-on-games-in-2020/

Sega will "aggressively" focus on PC after Steam strength during lockdown
https://www.gamesindustry.biz/articles/2020-08-19-sega-to-aggressively2

Microsoft may actually be committed to PC gaming this time
https://venturebeat.com/2019/06/24/microsoft-windows-pc-gaming/

Meanwhile Nvidia and AMD posting record breaking profits, companies like Samsung, LG and HP investing on PC Virtual Reality and displays and peripheral companies like Corsair and Razer thriving. Twitch.tv, youtube and e-sports all dominated by PC gaming while Steam breaks concurrent user records every year dwarfing PSN and Xbox live. Even Sony is now releasing their games on PC.

Steam hit its all-time concurrent user peak over the weekend
https://www.theverge.com/2020/3/16/21181272/steam-concurrent-user-record-set-cs-go

https://www.marketwatch.com/story/a...n-earnings-raising-annual-forecast-2020-07-28

Now show a me shred of evidence that PC gaming is somehow declining.

 

[Richdog]

I'd love to know the amounts of units actually sold for Turing and Pascal over the same time period. I have a niggling feeling the Turing didn't actually sell as well as Pascal.

Could that niggling feeling be because it has been mentioned several times on the last couple of pages?

It's a shame when a tech company goes for profit per unit over actually wanting to get their product into the hands of as many people as possible by pricing lower and selling more. Isn't that what the point of tech is? To give as many people the opportunity to use something you've created, rather than limit it to only those who are willing to pay exorbitant prices for it.

Nvidia are a corporation and market leader whose primary goal is to make as much money as possible. Their aim is ultimately to price higher per unit AND sell more units.

''Idealism is what precedes experience; cynicism is what follows. ''-David T. Wolf.

 

[five8five]

Wall Street predicts strong Ampere sales

Heading into yesterday's earnings, Oppenheimer had raised its price target for NVIDIA by 25%, or from $400/share to $500/share. The results have led the research firm to further raise expectations for NVIDIA, with Oppenheimer's new price target for the company now standing at $550, following a 10% hike.

Analyst Rick Schafer bases this hike on NVIDIA's strong performance during the quarter and on what he believes is an incoming "strong gaming" cycle

https://wccftech.com/nvidia-2020-price-target-product/

 

[Rroff]

Snip...

Only anecdotal but I'm surprised how many people at work have moved to PC gaming having been console gamers for a long time - especially amongst the younger ones it seems to be taking on a new life - I think partly streamers are responsible.

 

[K1LaW8tt5]

Only anecdotal but I'm surprised how many people at work have moved to PC gaming having been console gamers for a long time - especially amongst the younger ones it seems to be taking on a new life - I think partly streamers are responsible.

If everyone is a streamer who watches the streams?

 

[Stu999]

yeah, it would be interesting.. although I reckon they just guess loads because at some point they will get something right

Yes, and they can just say, “Oh, my source was wrong on that one”.