NVIDIA ‘Ampere’ 8nm Graphics Cards

[Grim5]

Now it is a job to get more than one GPU working.

Only if you have to use AMD drivers then getting one working deserves an achievement

I used to be exclusive to AMD bout 10 years back, but oh boy once I got my first Nvidia GPU I did not look back. The stability and lack of bugs made it such a nicer experience than my AMD cards.

 

[Grim5]

There is a 3080 Ti sized hole in that pricing line up.
Are they switching back to the Ti being a later release?

I'm fairly confident they will do a Super refresh mid next year - maybe the 3080 Super will get a large core count increase and make up that price gap?

Considering that a 3090 is only estimated to be 30 to 40% faster than the 3080, the price gap is insane. If SLI worked properly I'd be buying 2 x 3080's instead of one 3090 but unfortunately as it stand SLI is only good for putting up Timespy scores - Kaapstad would know all about that

 

[Satchfanuk]

There is a 3080 Ti sized hole in that pricing line up.
Are they switching back to the Ti being a later release?

If you look at pricing in relation to the 20 series, it seems like the 3090 is the ti of this generation

 

[labbby]

I'm fairly confident they will do a Super refresh mid next year - maybe the 3080 Super will get a large core count increase and make up that price gap?

Considering that a 3090 is only estimated to be 30 to 40% faster than the 3080, the price gap is insane. If SLI worked properly I'd be buying 2 x 3080's instead of one 3090.

weren't there rumours that the only one getting a sli link was the 3090 to prevent people doing exactly that ? something I read ages ago so could be bs off course.

 

[RBImGuy]

There will very likely be no 3900 performance-class card from AMD, their top card will compete with the 3800 as it is still based on the 5700XT tech. Nvidia will retain the performance crown, which is to be expected until at least the next generation.

New engineered Big Navi not really based on 5700xt.
They learned and rebuilt

This isn't true. AMD's forthcoming RDNA 2 architecture should be a new architecture, while RDNA 1 which powers the RX 5700 XT is a hybrid between the old GCN and the new RDNA 2.
Take it that RDNA 2 will be the new truly redesigned from the ground up architecture.

As seen with xbox, high clockspeed, low power, fast.

I'm fairly confident they will do a Super refresh mid next year - maybe the 3080 Super will get a large core count increase and make up that price gap?

Considering that a 3090 is only estimated to be 30 to 40% faster than the 3080, the price gap is insane. If SLI worked properly I'd be buying 2 x 3080's instead of one 3090 but unfortunately as it stand SLI is only good for putting up Timespy scores - Kaapstad would know all about that

350w, yield, rma, its going to be difficult to handle that.
Nvidia always push a price premium in this case $600 between two cards.
if that is a 30% or such difference its really another gauge.
They become Apple in that endeavor.

 

[Richdog]

There is a 3080 Ti sized hole in that pricing line up.
Are they switching back to the Ti being a later release?

3090 = 3080 Ti.

 

[gpuerrilla]

I used to be exclusive to AMD bout 10 years back, but oh boy once I got my first Nvidia GPU I did not look back. The stability and lack of bugs made it such a nicer experience than my AMD cards.

Lol. This is the attitude like over 10 years back - except it was from Greg. How can you possibly slate AMD drivers when you just admitted you have not bought one for 10 years? Unreal how people try not to be fanboys yet snippets like this come out!

 

[Richdog]

Lol. This is the attitude like over 10 years back - except it was from Greg. How can you possibly slate AMD drivers when you just admitted you have not bought one for 10 years? Unreal how people try not to be fanboys yet snippets like this come out!

The 5700XT thread has a fair number of complaints about the drivers within it and people have been very honest and open about it. AMD driver maturity and stability seems still something of a more common problem vs Nvidia.

 

[Phixsator]

Only if you have to use AMD drivers then getting one working deserves an achievement

I used to be exclusive to AMD bout 10 years back, but oh boy once I got my first Nvidia GPU I did not look back. The stability and lack of bugs made it such a nicer experience than my AMD cards.

Funny cause the experience has been the exact opposite for me. Nothing but small annoying bugs with my GTX 260 SLI, GTX 560 SLI, and 980 ti. Only pascal has been sorta behaving with my 1070 being alright and my 1080ti having solid performance but small issues from time to time like Gsync breaking on and off. However, these things can just as well be down to some weird platform combination or windows acting up. The least amount of issues I've ever had with a GPU has been my current Vega 64 across multiple OS's and OS builds. But unlike you Jensen, I don't go around and parade some narrative that the competition's drivers are bad. It would only take one look at the various Nvidia driver threads to find plenty of ammo for that argument however flawed it may be.

 

[gpuerrilla]

The 5700XT thread has a fair number of complaints about the drivers within it and people have been very honest and open about it. AMD driver maturity and stability seems still something of a more common problem vs Nvidia.

Really, lets just take a recent post:

Funny cause the experience has been the exact opposite for me. Nothing but small annoying bugs with my GTX 260 SLI, GTX 560 SLI, and 980 ti. Only pascal has been sorta behaving with my 1070 being alright and my 1080ti having solid performance but small issues from time to time like Gsync breaking on and off. However, these things can just as well be down to some weird platform combination or windows acting up. The least amount of issues I've ever had with a GPU has been my current Vega 64 across multiple OS's and OS builds. But unlike you Jensen, I don't go around and parade some narrative that the competition's drivers are bad. It would only take one look at the various Nvidia driver threads to find plenty of ammo for that argument however flawed it may be.

You are blind if you dont jump on to the nvidia forum and see the same whinging about drivers there - black screens etc. too!

I would say the 5700 series did have something going on for a proportion of users, wont defend that - but I noticed a chunk of these people were poor troubleshooters and would rather send the unit back under SOGA because they eyed up the nvidia equivelent anyhow.

I have been using a 290x, 2060 - 6Gb, vega56 and had no issues on drivers on ALL the cards. This is on both Win7 and 10.

 

[Grim5]

Lol. This is the attitude like over 10 years back - except it was from Greg. How can you possibly slate AMD drivers when you just admitted you have not bought one for 10 years? Unreal how people try not to be fanboys yet snippets like this come out!

I still read AMD forums and the amount of complaints about drivers is enough for me

 

[Richdog]

Really, lets just take a recent post:



You are blind if you dont jump on to the nvidia forum and see the same whinging about drivers there - black screens etc. too!

I would say the 5700 series did have something going on for a proportion of users, wont defend that - but I noticed a chunk of these people were poor troubleshooters and would rather send the unit back under SOGA because they eyed up the nvidia equivelent anyhow.

I have been using a 290x, 2060 - 6Gb, vega56 and had no issues on drivers on ALL the cards. This is on both Win7 and 10.

Your over-defensiveness is really telling here. ALL GPU's have some level of driver problems... but from what I have seen on the forums and from the research I did (I was looking at buying a 5700 XT a coupl eof months ago) I came to the conclusion that proportionally AMD still seem to have more issues.

I am however of course happy that you have had none so far.

 

[gpuerrilla]

I still read AMD forums and the amount of complaints about drivers is enough for me

That's fine, just remember slagging off any product is easy when you dont own one. Works both ways, but when your mindset is to sling mud to the other option, its just how you are.

Your over-defensiveness is really telling here. ALL GPU's have some level of driver problems... but from what I have seen on the forums and from the research I did (I was looking at buying a 5700 XT a coupl eof months ago) I came to the conclusion that proportionally AMD still seem to have more issues.

I am however of course happy that you have had none so far.

There are plenty of people with no issues, or those that had issues but since fixed it. All GPU's have driver niggles its been like that forever.. at least in my opinion its based on owning the hardware not 'researching' and concluding on my own narrative.

 

[ljt]

All the talk on price is meaningless until we see performance figures and comparisons to AMD rdna2 cards.

 

[Grim5]

That's fine, just remember slagging off any product is easy when you dont own one. Works both ways, but when your mindset is to sling mud to the other option, its just how you are.



There are plenty of people with no issues, or those that had issues but since fixed it. All GPU's have driver niggles its been like that forever.. at least in my opinion its based on owning the hardware not 'researching' and concluding on my own narrative.

That's fine by me. I haven't actually had any driver issues on my last two Nvidia gpus since switching from AMD

 

[BigBANGtheory]

These are just speculative prices again imho, calm ur ****

They could easily be higher, lower or indeed bang on, Nvidia will move the ball as they see fit between now and the event and retail pricing from AIBs could again be very different.

No one should be surprised at these prices though if you were to take an educated guess they feel about right given Nvidia is launching first so of course they want their cake with the most icing and cherries.

 

[TNA]

These are just speculative prices again imho, calm ur ****

They could easily be higher, lower or indeed bang on, Nvidia will move the ball as they see fit between now and the event and retail pricing from AIBs could again be very different.

No one should be surprised at these prices though if you were to take an educated guess they feel about right given Nvidia is launching first so of course they want their cake with the most icing and cherries.

Yep. Obviously can’t be for sure, but my thought is still they are letting silly prices leak, so even if they do release same inflated Turing prices, people will be like, that not bad at all or OMG that’s a bargain, thought it was gonna be x.

 

[Satchfanuk]

Yep. Obviously can’t be for sure, but my thought is still they are letting silly prices leak, so even if they do release same inflated Turing prices, people will be like, that not bad at all or OMG that’s a bargain, thought it was gonna be x.

Exactly, once Grim reports back to dear leader that OCUK forums aren't happy about the 'leaked' prices, he will adjust them last minute to around 50 quid less

 

[Journey]

Who cares about the prices, look at the potential size of the cards. HUUUUUGE!!

 

[LoadsaMoney]

That's a big one!
https://videocardz.com/newz/nvidia-geforce-rtx-3090-graphics-card-pictured

Its almost as big as mine that