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NVIDIA ‘Ampere’ 8nm Graphics Cards
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My 980ti is ready for an upgrade
You're wise to wait, nothing else will be a great upgrade from that!
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I will see whats what is 2022 (we may even have decent "non LCD" monitors by then).
I will see whats what is 2022 (we may even have decent "non LCD" monitors by then).
whats lcd? did you mean lsd?
This is all the HYPE train starting I’ll still say 30% .
They are taking their sweet time with this, but if the performance is there and they price it right I am happy to wait. Time goes by so quick that 6-9 months will be here in a flash, for me anyways.
At least it bodes well for getting 2080Ti or better rasterising performance and even better RT performance for under £500
At least it bodes well for getting 2080Ti or better rasterising performance and even better RT performance for under £500
Mate is still speculation and rumour the size of the chip on those links you posted, not a single fact. And all using the same source using each other as quoting source.
We need stop the drugs and work with facts.
If Samsung and TSMC state 420-429mm2 max size of any chip, any rumour stating sizes bigger than these, let alone over 500mm2, is straight blcks pulled out of .......
Let him and others post fake news/hype then watch everyone here end up underwhelmed again. Has been like this for over 5 years now. Lol.
I still remember clearly all the hype and fake news for the RX 480 on wccftech. Then it came out and it was no way near as good.
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These numbers are in line with TSMC's figures for going from 12nm to their 7+. But there is much more to final numbers than just the process shift as we don't know what size the 3080ti will end up at - in nvidia are planning to reduce the cost of their top gaming GPU they will have had to reduce the die size which will impact performance - they may be trying to push clockspeeds which will impact efficiency.
They can throw out numbers like these without referencing settings or die sizes and whilst they may be "true" from a certain perspective, it doesnt mean the equivalent card will lineup with those figures.
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We may need strong console performance and sales to drive Nvidia prices down.
Yes please I hope all the people in this forum threatening to move to next gen consoles actually do that.
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Makes sense tho doesn't it. If Nvidia aren't threatened by AMD on the discrete GPU front, then they need competition in the form of something. So for every next gen console bought instead of a new (Nvidia) GPU, this will make Nvidia think twice about super expensive prices to maintain sales targets.
Also the consoles contain AMD hardware so they are a direct competitor.
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Lets wait and see how LAVI 21s 1.2k price tag gets received.
The reticle size limit is 800 mm^2, not tiny 420-429 mm^2. Have you got a link to prove your claim?
You mean 500-600 price tag.
Same would rather a console destroying card at a reasonable price (£400-£500).They are taking their sweet time with this, but if the performance is there and they price it right I am happy to wait. Time goes by so quick that 6-9 months will be here in a flash, for me anyways.
At least it bodes well for getting 2080Ti or better rasterising performance and even better RT performance for under £500
They can take another 18 months of that's what it needs.
Why not both? I am getting a PS5 for sure
My combo will be PS5 & Switch consoles and PC with a RTX 3070 or whatever £400-500 buys as they may change naming again. As long as that money buys more than 2080Ti performance then that should be fine.
I will be set with that for a very long time I would imagine.
He might be referring to the EUV scanner part - to improve yields with something complex like a GPU you can increase the zoom but that means either your max chip size is half the reticle limit or you have massively slower production.
Well I bought a drone and a Nintendo switch instead of paying Nvidias stupid prices for Turing. Hasn't seem to have made a difference yet!
Going "too technical" in this forum, is never good idea my friend. Especially when many are hard to get that at 7nm and bellow, the bigger the chip the more prone to defect and higher the cost to produce.
Some here expect some magic GPU from AMD been 500mm2 big at 7nm/EUV to beat the RTX2080ti at the cost of the 5700XT, while the others are dreaming a 750mm2 chip thats 50% more powerful and 50% more power efficient than current 12nm Turing.
Unrealistic expectations what would come crashing down when the "5900XT" costs £900-£1200 and the 3800Ti over £2000. Because of the difficulty to make such big chips. Only multi chip from now on is the way to reduce costs and end price, like we see it on CPUs.
And moving forward to 5nm, TSMC has stated already 32% yields at 100mm2 chip and 80-90% at 17.5mm2.
No GPU can be made in 5nm given their current monolithic designs.
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Very pessimistic from you, I didn't expect that!
"IF for GPU-to-GPU is not being looked at very heavily"
https://www.reddit.com/r/AMD_Stock/comments/ehmg4c/an_interview_with_amds_cto_mark_papermaster/