NVIDIA ‘Ampere’ 8nm Graphics Cards

[Twinz]

People believe what they want to believe, I recall being told by some that the lockdown would bring cheaper cards, I agued they'd definitely become more expensive and was told I didn't understand basic economics!



When people paid Turing prices, they signed up for more expensive Ampere cards. They just didn't see it coming. NV will charge every last penny they can until people stop buying their cards. People will buy Ampere en masse, then in 2-3 years time the 4000 series will be even more expensive again...and up until release we'll hear the same wishfull thinking from forumites etc about cheaper halo cards.

Some people just don't understand how big business works.

It's like Turing is the only generation that ever happend.

Such short memories.

 

[opethdisciple]

No winks yet form Gibbo.

 

[Aretak]

Hardware unboxed made a good point about people reacting badly to the rumoured 400W requirements of these GPU's, Nobody really used to complain about this with SLI setups of the past.

People have been complaining about the power draw of AMD cards for as long as I can remember. It's interesting that it's no longer a problem for them now that Nvidia are likely releasing the most power-hungry single-GPU cards in history.

 

[Illuminist]

People have been complaining about the power draw of AMD cards for as long as I can remember. It's interesting that it's no longer a problem for them now that Nvidia are likely releasing the most power-hungry single-GPU cards in history.

Yeah that's why conversation in here is hilarious and hypocritical mostly

Also its Intel and nvidia that have the hot and hungry products but that's somehow a good thing now

 

[benjii]

I have a genuine curiosity about this. If the thermals are well under control, do any of you care what the power draw is?

 

[K4Y84]

We have received a confirmation on the upcoming GeForce RTX 30 lineup.

https://videocardz.com/newz/nvidia-geforce-rtx-3090-and-geforce-rtx-3080-specifications-leaked

Wattages here ^

With GeForce RTX Ampere, NVIDIA introduces 2nd Generation Ray Tracing Cores and 3rd Generation Tensor Cores. The new cards will also support PCI Express 4.0. Additionally, Ampere supports HDMI 2.1 and DisplayPort 1.4a display connectors.

NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3090 features GA102-300 GPU with 5248 cores and 24GB of GDDR6X memory across a 384-bit bus. This gives a maximum theoretical bandwidth of 936 GB/s. Custom boards are powered by dual 8-pin power connectors which are required because the card has a TGP of 350W.

The RTX 3080 gets 4352 CUDA cores and 10GB of GDDR6X memory. This card will have a maximum bandwidth of 760 GB/s thanks to a 320-bit bus and 19 Gbps memory speed. This model has a TGP of 320W and the custom models that we saw also require dual 8-pin connectors.

The RTX 3070 also launches at the end of next month (unless it changes). We can confirm it has 8GB of GDDR6 memory (non-X). The memory speed is estimated at 16 Gbps and TGP at 220W. The CUDA Core specs are still to be confirmed.

The data that we saw clearly mention the 7nm fabrication node. At this time we are unable to confirm if this is indeed true.

 

[Orangey]

VC said they might be on 7nm (TSMC).

 

[Kelt]

People have been complaining about the power draw of AMD cards for as long as I can remember. It's interesting that it's no longer a problem for them now that Nvidia are likely releasing the most power-hungry single-GPU cards in history.

I suppose a big difference is that Nvidia will probably provide extra performance for that extra power.

Not sure AMD did, recently.

 

[Journey]

"The RTX 3080 gets 4352 CUDA cores and 10GB of GDDR6X memory. This card will have a maximum bandwidth of 760 GB/s thanks to a 320-bit bus and 19 Gbps memory speed. This model has a TGP of 320W and the custom models that we saw also require dual 8-pin connectors."

Isn't that pretty much a 2080 Ti, with 1GB less RAM, and a 320-bit bus instead of 352-bit, and 19Gbps speed?

£799? 5-10% faster than a 2080 Ti

 

[VincentHanna]

"The RTX 3080 gets 4352 CUDA cores and 10GB of GDDR6X memory. This card will have a maximum bandwidth of 760 GB/s thanks to a 320-bit bus and 19 Gbps memory speed. This model has a TGP of 320W and the custom models that we saw also require dual 8-pin connectors."

Isn't that pretty much a 2080 Ti, with 1GB less RAM, and a 320-bit bus instead of 352-bit, and 19Gbps speed?

£799? 5-10% faster than a 2080 Ti

If you don't take in to account any actual architectural/hardware changes maybe.

 

[Poneros]

Lame.

 

[Mensy]

"The RTX 3080 gets 4352 CUDA cores and 10GB of GDDR6X memory. This card will have a maximum bandwidth of 760 GB/s thanks to a 320-bit bus and 19 Gbps memory speed. This model has a TGP of 320W and the custom models that we saw also require dual 8-pin connectors."

Isn't that pretty much a 2080 Ti, with 1GB less RAM, and a 320-bit bus instead of 352-bit, and 19Gbps speed?

£799? 5-10% faster than a 2080 Ti

Its needs to be at least 20% faster.

 

[Journey]

If you don't take in to account any actual architectural/hardware changes maybe.

So 12% with them, or do you think more?

 

[BigBANGtheory]

I have a genuine curiosity about this. If the thermals are well under control, do any of you care what the power draw is?

that's a fair question, I think what it means to me is that they come out of the factory close to their limits and will tend to throttle down with a higher risk of failure over time and a likely refresh that will come in 6months time that solves a lot of this but of course Nvidia don't want to talk about that for fear of impacting their sales at the highest possible margins

tbh I'd feel a lot better about the 3080 if it had 12GB vram

 

[Journey]

tbh I'd feel a lot better about the 3080 if it had 12GB vram

They'll sell you the 20GB one for £200, 300, 400, 500, (x amount) more though.

 

[opethdisciple]

How can there be such a big difference in memory between the 3090 and 3080?

The 3090 sounds more Titan than 2080ti.

 

[shrek2]

I can see the cheapest custom Palit, KFA2 3090's starting at £1500 going all the way up to £2000 for the Asus version.
There is going to be a major meltdown on forums all over the internet on Monday about the prices and I'll be here for it.

 

[Joxeon]

£799? 5-10% faster than a 2080 Ti

This is what I'm expecting with just better RT performance. Maybe even a slight price bump to £850 or £900.

 

[Journey]

This is what I'm expecting with just better RT performance.

In what? Minecraft.

 

[Smiffy-UK]

There is going to be a major meltdown on forums all over the internet on Monday about the prices and I'll be here for it.

Me and you both, I'll bring the pasties!