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NVIDIA ‘Ampere’ 8nm Graphics Cards

I had a dream last night that Nvidia will be releasing a special Nvidia ‘Ice Cube’ edition.

Woke up and realised it wasn’t a dream it’s actually reality....





It’s called the 3090 and will be packaged with a free song for all those who value all the extra value Nvidia will be bringing this gen.


Sneak preview. https://youtu.be/bvRc7pwnt0U
 
7990’s were a grand when they first came out, they couldn’t sell them at the time because of the micro stutter issue AMD had with Crossfire. If I remember rightly they knocked them down to below half price only to fix the micro stutter a few months later.. I’ll go through my old order history to see what I paid for my ones

Yes I think you are right they were £1k on release
Just went back through my SCAT account and I paid;

£527 for the 7990 on 9th Aug 2013 for a 900Mhz version and they sent me a Ghz version.

£599 for 980ti sea hawk in Feb 2016

£720 for my 1080ti Founders MArch 2017

So went up by ~£100 each upgrade until we saw the 20 series.....Oooof!
 
When the 3060 6GB costs >£400, and performs worse than a 2070S, I will spend the first half of the day laughing, then the second half crying, followed by taking all my eggs and putting them in AMD's basket.

So yeah, you can add me to that book for sure.

I have faced up to it that they are not going to be cheap, hope to be proved wrong but I just can't see it :(
 
an 80 class Ti GPU for £420 (in 2014) :) makes you wonder where that additional £700 (adjusted for inflation) goes in Turing :rolleyes:

Not defending Nvidia here...

It comes down to margin, the difference between the cost price and the selling price.
Nvidia is pulling 60% across customer GPU's.

Memory is obviously contentious.
Only data I can find priced GDDR6 14Mbps at ~ $11 per GB late last year.
So GDDR6X 19Mbps is top tier it's going to cost more so lets assume $20 per GB.

Slip 10GB GDDR6X onto a 80 series card and you're at $200 BOM cost.
Now Nvidia need to make their Magic Margin so will charge you $500 just for the memory chips so they get their juicy 60%.
Then the distributer and retailer want their cut so that will bump the price a little more.

Even if you Dropped to a slower GDDR6X say ~ 16Mbps @ $15 (speculating here as I don't have a price list).
You still have a BOM of $150 or consumer price of $375 for that 80 series card. - Just for the memory.
Add another $375 of VRAM to a 80 series card to get 20GB and you're at almost TI prices, though with more memory.

That's why a 12GB GDDR6X 2090 is likely to be $1400 and a 24GB version $2000.
That's why we're getting 8-12GB VRAM
margin, margin, magin
It's a key metric for shareholders.

The only way we get better prices is that AMD launches competitive cards, if AMD have a higher bus width on the memory interface say 512bit, they give us more, less expensive memory at the same cost.
The only way Nvidia cut margins is if they end up with excess inventory... and that will only happen if AMD is competative this time.
 
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I have faced up to it that they are not going to be cheap, hope to be proved wrong but I just can't see it :(


Well, out of all the speculation and inferences made from the snippets we have seen. I think what you say is the only one we can all agree will become reality.

Price wouldn't matter so much if you got the performance - but it seems it's gone the way of intel upgrades.

£720 for my 1080ti on release...£1400 I'd only entertain if it's X2 1080ti at least and still then I'd wait for NAVI

Then alcohol will be in the mix one eve and ...well I've done that before.
 
Well, out of all the speculation and inferences made from the snippets we have seen. I think what you say is the only one we can all agree will become reality.

Price wouldn't matter so much if you got the performance - but it seems it's gone the way of intel upgrades.

£720 for my 1080ti on release...£1400 I'd only entertain if it's X2 1080ti at least and still then I'd wait for NAVI

Then alcohol will be in the mix one eve and ...well I've done that before.

Good point, I will give the alcohol a miss, I will wait for Navi also I think then make a decision.
 
Sadly I know I will be buying a 3090 if they are £1400 and are 54% faster than a 2080ti as having two 2080tis are annoying me now.

With what I will get for the 2080tis it wont be too much to spend.
 
Sadly I know I will be buying a 3090 if they are £1400 and are 54% faster than a 2080ti as having two 2080tis are annoying me now.

With what I will get for the 2080tis it wont be too much to spend.

Rationalise it anyway you want but the fact is you'll still be losing a silly amount of money on your 2080Ti's, just to feed this irrationally stupid need to always have the latest & best.
 
Rationalise it anyway you want but the fact is you'll still be losing a silly amount of money on your 2080Ti's, just to feed this irrationally stupid need to always have the latest & best.

Yes I know and understand this but I will still do it :)

And I game in 4k so I want some extra ummph.
 
Yes I know and understand this but I will still do it :)

And I game in 4k so I want some extra ummph.


i too game at 4k and my 2080ti did a good enough job, but even at ultra settings it did start to drop fps down close to 60fps in some cases, i just hope the 3090 will fit in a lian li pc o-11 dynamic case with a waterblock too, if not i'll have to opt for a bigger case.

i need that high fps at 4k and the 3090 should do the job nicley
 
However ridiculous the 3090 pricing will be, Nvidia will defend it by saying it has no competition. History has shown that AMD rarely attempts to compete with the Nvidia flagship, my guess is they will come in around the 3070 or 3080.
 
i too game at 4k and my 2080ti did a good enough job, but even at ultra settings it did start to drop fps down close to 60fps in some cases, i just hope the 3090 will fit in a lian li pc o-11 dynamic case with a waterblock too, if not i'll have to opt for a bigger case.

i need that high fps at 4k and the 3090 should do the job nicley

Are you using the vertical GPU mount for the OD-11? Ive got the XL and have plenty of space with the Vertical GPU mount (not sure how much bigger the XL is over the standard)
 
Are you using the vertical GPU mount for the OD-11? Ive got the XL and have plenty of space with the Vertical GPU mount (not sure how much bigger the XL is over the standard)

i'm using the horizontal method for gpu install, memory servers the o-11 dynamic supports upto 155mm tall gpu's, the xl is better at 160+mm i think, time will tell if the 3090 wont fit i'll opt for a aib 3080 with more ram maybe? (20gb) or are all 3080's shipping with 10gb?
 
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