Yea, I will have to try to wait and get a 3070 16Gb. It should be out before Cyberpunk 2077 so happy to wait.
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NVIDIA ‘Ampere’ 8nm Graphics Cards
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There's a point though I thought that the GPU core is not powerful enough no matter how much VRAM you have that becomes the limiting factor.
Can't remember the series or ATI or NV but there was a card with a lowly as hell core with something like 2Gb VRAM that people actually bought as that number was higher. Not realising the core itself is not powerful enough to use that much.
It's impossible to do but you wonder of you could bolt on extra VRAM easily at what point would the 2080Ti core become the limiting factor?
Can't remember the series or ATI or NV but there was a card with a lowly as hell core with something like 2Gb VRAM that people actually bought as that number was higher. Not realising the core itself is not powerful enough to use that much.
It's impossible to do but you wonder of you could bolt on extra VRAM easily at what point would the 2080Ti core become the limiting factor?
There is some sensible logic that would mean his quote makes sense for some gamers in the next 3-4 years gaming. Many gamers have a large backlog of games and if like me they are working though the oldest games first then they are only around the XCOM2/Fallout4/Witcher 3 year of games. Which means the next 3 to 4 years of gaming at 4k with the new GPU will be for the most part on the previous 3 to 4 years of games and as you established the previous years game at 4k are fine with 10GB of VRAM. By the time we reach games that need more then 10GB VRAM we will have upgraded again.
There can be lots of benefits playing delayed games on the newest hardware. Doing this is we get to play more polished games with years of patches', DLC's, expansions and as we use new GPU's we expreince better FPS then the people who played the game early. So I agree with his quote for gamers like myself 3-4 years gaming at 4k will be fine at 10GB VRAM.
It was flawed thinking even then. What happened was there were still resolution transitions happening then, so you had people thinking you only needed more vram if you went up in resolution and of course by going up in resolution you'd halve your performance, so then they'd say 'oh gee, see, we don't need more vram because we don't have enough performance'.
The flaw with this thinking is, of course, that it ties vram solely to resolution, when in reality you can increase vram usage through using higher res textures, or allowing higher/better streaming details & distance. Indeed, that is exactly where we see vram get a lot of use, in games where you have HD texture packs (Far Cry 5, FFXV, MHW, Shadow of War etc) or allow you better streaming (id engine games, ala Wolfenstein 2, Doom Eternal; or COD games; or games that through console commands allow you to up those requirements eg Kingdom Come Deliverance, UE4 engine games that allow the unlocker etc.), and of course mods because those can do both or games that allow both.
The only reason we don't see vram issues more often is because in general we get gimped console versions of games where on PC we mostly only get higher res/fps option as extra (eg Assassin's Creed, Horizon Zero Dawn etc).
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I'm decided, gonna get a 3080 on launch from nV and then maybe a 3090 down the road. AiB cards are gonna be mental expensive for the first couple of months!
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Is it? Damn it, back to school I go
Sadly I no longer do them, so yes, my machine is a gaming machine only!
I just had a look at gameGPU and had a look at VRAM consumption in MS2020 and seems 10GB is more than enough, as is 8GB and the same for 4GB at 4K ultra settings. I have done this previously on here a few times and what is being shown as used isn't always what is needed!
https://gamegpu.com/racing-simulators-/-гонки/microsoft-flight-simulator-test-gpu-cpu
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Lots of people here are falsely correlating indicated VRAM consumption with VRAM requirements. They are also ignoring that this is a brand new type of VRAM that they don't understand.
Go away and read how it works then get all worried about 10GB.
Go away and read how it works then get all worried about 10GB.
Mhmmmmmmmm
I posted this last night of my system using 10.5GB of Vram at 3440x1440 (It was all 11GB the other day) in FS 2020
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Yea, I felt the same about RT on the 2000 series. Hopefully with the extra oomph from the 3000 series we have something better for games like Cyberpunk 2077.
Way I see that is I waited and skipped 2000 series and happy I did. So as long as the price is not stupid and I get it from the start there will be zero regrets as tech always moves on.
He wants the 3090 obviously but even Nvidia’s **** taking prices are starting to take a toll on him, so he is not sure and does not want to commit so he is lying to himself by saying he won’t upgrade.
The reality is, once he sees Jensen’s presentation he will get mesmerised by the marketing and at the very least upgrade to a 3080. But will probably go 3090 as long as Jensen is willing not to go in much deeper than he did last time
He can always help justify it by saying I miss reviewing stuff
Sound about right Gregster ma boy?
I agree. There is alwasy something new. And for the vast majority of games 10GB will be fine. Also depends on resolution too.
I think for me, I am going to wait for Cyberpunk to release, see benchmarks and buy from there.
I haven't watched that Youtube link myself yet..
So you think 10gb will be plenty at 4K for the next 2-3 years?
I am looking to get a 3070 which if all the rumours are true will have 8gb only. Will that be enough for the next 2-3 years at 4K? I am pretty sure it will not be optimal, hence I will go 16Gb unless Nvidia come up with some magic sauce. Not that I will easily believe them, I mean one look at their claim above and they hardly delivered any of those games, then you have the 4Gb of HBM was more than 4Gb of normal vram because of x reason, then Nvidia guys kept saying 4GB is 4GB
