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NVIDIA ‘Ampere’ 8nm Graphics Cards
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The best part is that dlss is a very flexible approach.. dlss doesn't train online it just can't it needs some kind of feedback, so Nvidia feeds labelled frames to an offline neural model and updates the parameters of the neural model in its next driver release..the driver then uses these parameters to bring perf/iq improvement to your computer.. Nvidia might have patented few specificities of the dlss tech.. but looking at the overall approach, anyone should be able to do this without paying licensing fees
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Can you please explain how an upscaled image can look better with a screen that has 4k native resolution like a TV?
I'd be interested to know.
On the surface at least Death Stranding looks slightly better with DLSS on with regards to textures on moving objects. No idea how it does it. But there definitely are downsides to using it, most noticeably edges of objects in the far distance.
Have you read this article?
https://www.igorslab.de/en/graphics...cause-and-correct-power-supply-measurement/4/
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Just watched a video on gamers nexus basically saying far distance objects are blurrier and an article on Techspot for the new DLSS 2.0 won't be as sharp as native and apparently according to that page, Going forward Nvidia will now only use 2.0 for anything that they allow to use DLSS.
But basically Techspot saying not as sharp as native, close but not as sharp, upscaling is great when done correctly but you can't beat native for whatever a screens native resolution is.
If you are filling in the blanks effectively using AI and doing stuff to make lines and curves crisper etc. it can look "better" than native* - but I'm still not a huge fan - I'd rather have the native image personally.
* Kind of like Optoma does with its "embedding stereoscopic depth information from a human-vision-based model" to make upscaled footage look "HD".
basic math is hardly relevant is it. I could afford it, I bought it. Sold it, not arsed!
Easy. Just have Nvidia sponsor your channel to make videos. Then you can call it the magical AI technology of the future which looks better than any other technique ever.
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I think you can certainly make it look very good I imagine but when your changing a resolution of a screen that it's not ideally intended for it's not going to look as good.
I don't know what monitors are like changing resolution from their native but you can certainly tell the difference on 4k TVs.
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It explains the blurring I'm seeing with DLSS enabled, cramming 1 pixel basically and spreading it into 2.
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Easy. Just have Nvidia sponsor your channel to make videos. Then you can call it the magical AI technology of the future which looks better than any other technique ever.
Haha yeah if only everything went so smoothly.
I'd be interested to hear how many are looking to upgrade on 1080p 240hz setups.
Certainly with the games I've been playing a lot of over the last year (namely Apex Legends, Modern Warfare/Warzone, PUBG) I have to admit I enjoy that high frame rate experience. Being honest with you the 3080 may be quite attractive if it means I can hit that 240 fps more consistently without completely sacrificing certain options to do so (as I do currently).
Also for anyone looking at FE don't expect it to be delivered next day...just from experience it typically takes a few days to arrive if in stock. I'm certainly considering a FE if I do decide to jump in but will wait for the reviews before deciding.
Certainly with the games I've been playing a lot of over the last year (namely Apex Legends, Modern Warfare/Warzone, PUBG) I have to admit I enjoy that high frame rate experience. Being honest with you the 3080 may be quite attractive if it means I can hit that 240 fps more consistently without completely sacrificing certain options to do so (as I do currently).
Also for anyone looking at FE don't expect it to be delivered next day...just from experience it typically takes a few days to arrive if in stock. I'm certainly considering a FE if I do decide to jump in but will wait for the reviews before deciding.
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that good superflower psu will be fine... At stock my estimate.. u will be 440 480w short peak spikes. then use the spare headroom for a gpu oc.
Problem with 240hz setups is that you run into CPU & engine bottlenecks more often than not which means it doesn't matter how fast your GPU is it's going to get held back.
Totally, a lot of variables in there especially when it comes to certain engines like you say. I've been analysing my GPU usage recently in the games I've been playing and I've certainly been taxing the usage at 99% so certainly not experiencing any CPU bottle necking on my end.
Hopefully the benchmarks on the 16th don't completely ignore 1080p when they arrive but I can certainly understand why 1440p/4k would show the most obvious improvements.
Do you know much about DLSS 2.0?
Get on youtube and look at the examples of people comparing the two. Its much easier than asking people on an internet forum to break it down in a single post.
Sometimes DLSS really does look fantastic.
Not quite sure what you are saying there but DLSS still outputs to the screen at native resolution - it just renders the image internally at a lower resolution then fills in the blanks - the display is still running at native res.
Display scalers tend to do all kinds of horrid things running at non-native resolutions so you generally don't want that.
