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Nvidia doesn't want to just dominate the graphics card market, it wants to own it

Thats because its not true gsync in laptops its actually adaptive sync. The way laptop monitors are designed allows this to be used it doesnt need a module because the hardware required is already there. I believe adaptive sync is the way forward and would be a "standard" to adopt but the tech for desktop monitors is not available yet. Through the type of DP/HDMI classification or monitor hardware something like that.

Yep, and it was form making adaptive sync compatible mobile GPUS that Nvidia decided it would be a good product for desktop solutions and so went on to develop GSYNC.
 
In its current form I dont have any problem with the geforce experience software, I use it to download the new driver sometimes and to activate the shadowplay, there is an optimize button but I just leave it so I dont think its a problem.

I would rather not have another password that if I lose it potentially makes my hardware unusuable but I will probably just go along with whatever new thing they add because from what I've seen amd are not providing the same level of quality as nvidia
 
No over exaggeration, Pascal will wipe the floor with Maxwell.

This could be most unfortunate for me as I own 11 Maxwell cards.:D

I'm not sure obsolete means what you think it means.

So all the 970 and 980s happily gaming at 1080 and 1440p will be rendered useless over night on the release of Pascal? Interesting...
 
I'm not sure obsolete means what you think it means.

So all the 970 and 980s happily gaming at 1080 and 1440p will be rendered useless over night on the release of Pascal? Interesting...
If Nvidia gonna have same approach as the way they neglected driver performance for Kepler cards for new titles when Maxwell was released, what you suggesting might not be too far from the truth :p
 
I'm not sure obsolete means what you think it means.

So all the 970 and 980s happily gaming at 1080 and 1440p will be rendered useless over night on the release of Pascal? Interesting...

I think I know what the word means.

You can drive around in a model T Ford but it is totally obsolete.
 
This is why car analogies don't work.... a Model T can still drive on the roads!!!

Eventually the midrange 900 series cards will not allow you to boot a game.
 
This is why car analogies don't work.... a Model T can still drive on the roads!!!

Eventually the midrange 900 series cards will not allow you to boot a game.

Yes but you could say that a model T will drive on the road, but wont go over 45mph so it will never be as fast as some of the cars that came after it.
 
I have enjoyed reading this thread, just going to put this tinfoil hat notion out there. If/When AMD goes under, and we are left with only one choice of vendor for processors and GPU's. What's stoping Nvidia, tanking the R&D budget & hiking the cost of the cards. And pulling in the money, Via a subscription service for the software suite & GameWorks/Gsync features, while only offering free driver updates once in a blue moon?
 
FYI. Gsync is not a good example. I am not locked to Gsync. If I buy AMD tomorrow and play it on a Gsync monitor, I can play games just like I would be able to on a non Gsync monitor.- Vice versa for Freesync.

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G-Sync is a perfect example. Yes you are locked to G-Sync if you want to use variable refresh.

Really, who in their right mind would spend over £500 + on a monitor and buy a GFX card that uses a non compatible VRR technology. Whats the point of getting a VRR monitor otherwise. I certainly wouldnt spend that kind of money if I wasnt going to use VRR. :confused:

The difference is that AMD are not allowed to use G-Sync...even if they wanted to. Whereas Nvidia are allowed to develop for Async/Freesync but they choose not to...to protect their G-Sync product and the money they are raking in from it. It's not rocket science its common sense.

If Nvidia said that they would support Freesync I think that, that would sink AMD a lot faster than they are sinking right now (actually I think they have gone from drowning to a poor doggy paddle but there you go). Really hoping that the next cards do well for them and the cpu's. If not then I think that will be it, to be honest.

1. Do you think Nvidia will support Async/Freesync in Pascal or Volta?
2. Do you think Nvidia will get a little complacent in the next few years as quite a lot of companies seem to do when at the top?
 
I have enjoyed reading this thread, just going to put this tinfoil hat notion out there. If/When AMD goes under, and we are left with only one choice of vendor for processors and GPU's. What's stoping Nvidia, tanking the R&D budget & hiking the cost of the cards. And pulling in the money, Via a subscription service for the software suite & GameWorks/Gsync features, while only offering free driver updates once in a blue moon?

Nothing.

Hopefully if this does happen the American & EU courts will step in.
 
FYI. Gsync is not a good example. I am not locked to Gsync. If I buy AMD tomorrow and play it on a Gsync monitor, I can play games just like I would be able to on a non Gsync monitor.- Vice versa for Freesync.

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G-Sync is a perfect example. Yes you are locked to G-Sync if you want to use variable refresh.

Really, who in their right mind would spend over £500 + on a monitor and buy a GFX card that uses a non compatible VRR technology. Whats the point of getting a VRR monitor otherwise. I certainly wouldnt spend that kind of money if I wasnt going to use VRR. :confused:

The difference is that AMD are not allowed to use G-Sync...even if they wanted to. Whereas Nvidia are allowed to develop for Async/Freesync but they choose not to...to protect their G-Sync product and the money they are raking in from it. It's not rocket science its common sense.

If Nvidia said that they would support Freesync I think that, that would sink AMD a lot faster than they are sinking right now (actually I think they have gone from drowning to a poor doggy paddle but there you go). Really hoping that the next cards do well for them and the cpu's. If not then I think that will be it, to be honest.

1. Do you think Nvidia will support Async/Freesync in Pascal or Volta?
2. Do you think Nvidia will get a little complacent in the next few years as quite a lot of companies seem to do when at the top?

again what you are saying is wrong. It's not your explanation, its the comment. 'locked to gsync' Can I use the feature of gsync on an AMD card = No. Am I locked to Nvidia if I have a gsync monitor = No. Who in their right mind would buy this or that is a completely different debate.
 
The difference is that AMD are not allowed to use G-Sync...even if they wanted to.

This is the comment, that one statement that of course is completely unprovable in either direction.

So many times, things like this get posted and of course they are complete fabrications, we will never know if these technologies get offered to the opposing team and at what terms or price.
So many times Nvidia get painted as the bad guy with AMD being squeaky clean, Don't you people realise they are both just as bad as each other.

Just look at the latest NVidia and AMD idea's, NVidia want people to register an Email for day one game update drivers, AMD show off their new software front end and make a noise about no email login required.

Both sides are happy to take shots at the other at every opportunity, pretty much like both sides on the forum here. ;)
 
A good read, nvidia do need to be careful with this whole locking drivers behind gfe. Personally I like and use gfe and many of its features, but installing it shouldn't be forced upon those just looking for the latest driver. I have no doubt the drivers will get pulled from gfe and uploaded else where as a stand alone, but it's an inconvenience you shouldn't have to face.

Hi Paul,

Agree with you entirely on this one - I personally don't bother to install GFE these days.

How u doing?

Mark
 
I've overclocked my Intel CPUs so they don't Turbo when using 1 core or 4.
I've also overclocked my Pilerdriver so all cores run at the same clock speed.
So if I load one core is it running any differently to each of the cores if I load all 4 cores? If you have a HyperThreading CPU does it affect the performance of the 'cores' when a HyperThreading thread is running?
If I load one core on my Piledriver CPU does that 1 core run any differently than the 8 cores if I load all 8?

Intel sell locked CPUs too, and even unlocked ones by default don't behave equally when loaded on one core vs. all cores - I don't really care that you've chosen to disable a bunch of functionality. I've chosen to do the same, I agree with the decision for you, but it doesn't change that Intel are in the same boat in terms of this spurious claim. (And yes, using hyperthreading does affect the performance of the cores)
 
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