Nvidia GeForce GTX 980 Ti Coming This Summer Featuring 3072 CUDA Cores and 6GB of GDDR5

[razorpakk]

Yeah I mean that I wouldn't mind going SLI (no real need but you know, it's fun upgrading), but I don't see anything "heavier" than GTAV on the horizon.

P.S. That's what I think every year, then something always comes out of nowhere, like Dying Light, to push things forward.

 

[stulid]

They wouldn't dream of screwing the memory allocation up on this card...would they?

 

[Ayahuasca]

Depends if they advertise it properly although marketing a card as having a small segment of slower RAM will put people off. I think they'll just give it 6gb outright.

 

[africanos23]

The rubbish I hear sometimes. HBM while being faster than GDDR5 and swapping occuring more frequently, the memory type is not the only thing that might cause bottlenecks in the whole system especially when trying to pump 3x the data in those same pipelines.

The alleged benchmarks show a OCed 980Ti beating a TX but not TX OCed numbers whatsoever.

 

[razorpakk]

The rubbish I hear sometimes. HBM while being faster than GDDR5 and swapping occuring more frequently, the memory type is not the only thing that might cause bottlenecks in the whole system especially when trying to pump 3x the data in those same pipelines.

The alleged benchmarks show a OCed 980Ti beating a TX but not TX OCed numbers whatsoever.

At the same time it will be easier for the majority of users (not bothering with custom water loops) to overclock the card using manufacturer's own options.

I still don't get why Nvidia holds back Titan X and the previous Titans, not allowing for custom coolers out of the box.

 

[whyscotty]

I would have thought it's basic knowledge,

HBM is not the equivalent to the Tardis.

What's basic knowledge?

Unless you know something others don't.

 

[bru]

This is a point that people don't seem to have picked up on.

NVidia
980 Sept 18th
970 Sept 18th
960 Jan 22nd
Titan X Mar 17th
980ti Mar ??

AMD
285 Sept 2nd

That is indeed FIVE brand new (not rebranded) cards since AMD last brought us anything.

 

[RUN4Y0URL1F3]

Will the factory overclocked 980 Tis be faster than TITAN X? If yes, I'm gonna grab 2.

 

[Yaayuh!]

Spoiler

Everything maxed, which is playable on a Titan X but not playable on a 970, even if it had enough VRAM.

Eh? That's not really saying much to me man, what am I meant to be looking at here? The GTAV memory usage estimated on settings? Please. You know that's far from accurate. Also, GTX970 is a bad example giving the fact the last 500mb is likely to cause issues with cached data.

 

[ALXAndy]

I honestly think they are seeing the disgruntled AMD users and grabbing the Bull by the horns and trying to win them across. A good move in reality and you don't even need to know what the 390X can achieve.

Well I'm of the former persuasion, that HBM kicks the crap out of GDDR and so they're going to get in the sales while they can. TBH Greg they have no other reason I can see to release first. Releasing first when there is competition (and there will be) can be a dangerous game, because once you've showed your hand and decided on your card it's too late to make any adjustments.

What's finished it for me is the prices I am hearing for the '390x'. $849.

So it seems that AMD are now being ran by the same brain dead monkeys that Nvidia employ.

It's not that I can't afford it. It's just that I don't agree with it and I guess am one of the few people on this forum with enough self control not to allow myself to pay that sort of money. As I mentioned before I did that last year and I'm already being screwed over for drivers. Why would I want to spend a grand or more to play one game?

There comes a point where you just gotta pull up the reigns and give in. If things ever settle back down to where these things cost more sensible money I will no doubt jump back in, but at a grand a go and for one game I really can't be bothered.

PC gaming had been completely stale for ages with absolutely no big releases to speak of. There have been a couple this year but it's getting worse, and the price of entry is also getting far worse.

 

[jommy999]

Will the factory overclocked 980 Tis be faster than TITAN X? If yes, I'm gonna grab 2.

i always like EVGA SC one. i keep an eye on it this time round too.

 

[Mayh3M]

Will the factory overclocked 980 Tis be faster than TITAN X? If yes, I'm gonna grab 2.

Factory overclocked cards are always really conservative, probably around 1200 for the Ti.

That should roughly put it on par with the Titan X at stock.

 

[PullTheTricker]

i always like EVGA SC one. i keep an eye on it this time round too.

I never understood oc editions for gpu's. It only takes a bit of testing unigine bench and tweaking Afterburner. If somebody can tell me what advantages it has over doing it manually yourself, I'd like to hear though.

 

[CAT-THE-FIFTH]

Well I'm of the former persuasion, that HBM kicks the crap out of GDDR and so they're going to get in the sales while they can. TBH Greg they have no other reason I can see to release first. Releasing first when there is competition (and there will be) can be a dangerous game, because once you've showed your hand and decided on your card it's too late to make any adjustments.

What's finished it for me is the prices I am hearing for the '390x'. $849.

So it seems that AMD are now being ran by the same brain dead monkeys that Nvidia employ.

It's not that I can't afford it. It's just that I don't agree with it and I guess am one of the few people on this forum with enough self control not to allow myself to pay that sort of money. As I mentioned before I did that last year and I'm already being screwed over for drivers. Why would I want to spend a grand or more to play one game?

There comes a point where you just gotta pull up the reigns and give in. If things ever settle back down to where these things cost more sensible money I will no doubt jump back in, but at a grand a go and for one game I really can't be bothered.

PC gaming had been completely stale for ages with absolutely no big releases to speak of. There have been a couple this year but it's getting worse, and the price of entry is also getting far worse.

Its probably AMD has seen all the people buying Titan and Titan X cards,and thought lets ramp up our next card prices too and see if anyone bites...

But I agree with you regarding the prices rising on each side,but luckily there are plenty of great games which will run fine on your setup fine if you are not after the best graphics you can get currently.

 

[Mayh3M]

I never understood oc editions for gpu's. It only takes a bit of testing unigine bench and tweaking Afterburner. If somebody can tell me what advantages it has over doing it manually yourself, I'd like to hear though.

Some people believe that there's some kind of binning process that takes place. A card that comes factory overclocked is likely to have a higher manual overclock limit. At least, that's the idea.

 

[Mayh3M]

There comes a point where you just gotta pull up the reigns and give in. If things ever settle back down to where these things cost more sensible money I will no doubt jump back in, but at a grand a go and for one game I really can't be bothered.

PC gaming had been completely stale for ages with absolutely no big releases to speak of. There have been a couple this year but it's getting worse, and the price of entry is also getting far worse.

Disagree with your implication that PC gaming is unreasonably costly.

When you compare PC gaming to its competition, i.e. console gaming, you should compare like for like. In other words you ask how costly is it to game at 1080p on PC? In this regard, its very comparable to console prices. You couldn't say this five years ago.

For gamers at super high resolutions, yes the cost is high, but this is currently luxury gaming and as such demands a premium.

I feel like right now PC gamers are in a slow transition to higher resolutions and we somehow expect GPUs to keep up in terms of price and performance, but that's just not being realistic. Only until we move onto new technology and smaller die sizes can we expect to game at 1440p+ at reasonable cost.

 

[CAT-THE-FIFTH]

Disagree with your implication that PC gaming is unreasonably costly.

When you compare PC gaming to its competition, i.e. console gaming, you should compare like for like. In others you ask how costly is it to game at 1080p/60 FPS on PC? In this regard, its very comparable to console prices. You couldn't say this five years ago.

For gamers at super high resolutions, yes the cost is high, but this is still luxury gaming and such demands a premium.

I feel like right now PC gamers are in a slow transition to higher resolutions and we somehow expect GPUs to keep up in terms of price and performance, but that's just no realistic.

Only until we move onto new technology and smaller die sizes can we expect to game at 1440p+ at reasonable cost.

I find PC gaming is going up in pricing BEING one of those kind of gamers who don't go for uber E-PEEN stuff or runs at uber high res(only 1920X1080 or 1680X1050).

Graphics improvements at under £200(especially cards under £150) has stagnated,and even CPU performance at £100 and under has stagnated.

I will be looking to spend,easily £100+ more than I did over two years ago to get a decent improvement in performance over my £150ish card at the time. My previous card to that lasted two years and was not more than £150 too. In fact I never needed to spend more than that for the last decade when I come to thing about it,but I have been slowly spending more and more now.

I still remember the massive generation improvements even a decade ago,but with process node tech slowing down and wafers becoming more expensive for new nodes,its not really the fault of AMD or Nvidia in some ways.

Hopefully the move to larger wafers and better lithography might help restore some balance,but then I expect companies like Apple and Qualcomm will get their way first.

In the end this really only affects people who want nice graphics,and luckily there are plenty of PC games which don't need it TBH and they are great games too.

 

[ALXAndy]

Disagree with your implication that PC gaming is unreasonably costly.

When you compare PC gaming to its competition, i.e. console gaming, you should compare like for like. In other words you ask how costly is it to game at 1080p on PC? In this regard, its very comparable to console prices. You couldn't say this five years ago.

For gamers at super high resolutions, yes the cost is high, but this is currently luxury gaming and as such demands a premium.

I feel like right now PC gamers are in a slow transition to higher resolutions and we somehow expect GPUs to keep up in terms of price and performance, but that's just not being realistic. Only until we move onto new technology and smaller die sizes can we expect to game at 1440p+ at reasonable cost.

If I wanted to game with everything turned down and a crap resolution I would just buy the console, mate.

PC gaming is about eye candy and copious amounts of. Not turning things down.

And the price for that has become completely unreasonable. Seriously, you actually think the Titan X is worth nearly a grand? really?

The price for the high end is getting more and more expensive with every release. Now it's at the point of ridiculous.

So what to do eh? vote with your wallet is what I will do. Not crumble and pay the sickening prices being demanded for a new GPU.

I was actually annoyed at spending £439 on a 7970. There's no way on earth I am spending £800 plus on a GPU. I would rather go on holiday (which I just did, lovely week by the south coast).

I'm out. I'm not going to encourage this utter nonsense. The more people do that the higher the prices rise.

 

[psychas]

ti probably be over 600 quid and selling 980 probably get me 350 or so ,mount of money needed for small upgrade these days is way to high and unpractical

 

[Boomstick777]

I got to agree with ALXAndy on pricing. It's def become more expensive than ever to stay at the high end. Even if you include inflation and VAT, we are paying way over the odds.