Nvidia GeForce GTX 980 Ti Coming This Summer Featuring 3072 CUDA Cores and 6GB of GDDR5

ALXAndy · 23 May 2015 at 15:07

Boomstick777 said:
I got to agree with ALXAndy on pricing. It's def become more expensive than ever to stay at the high end. Even if you include inflation and VAT, we are paying way over the odds.

I would need two. That's two grand.

For that I can buy a whole car FFS. It's not even a joke.

CAT-THE-FIFTH said:
Its probably AMD has seen all the people buying Titan and Titan X cards,and thought lets ramp up our next card prices too and see if anyone bites...

But I agree with you regarding the prices rising on each side,but luckily there are plenty of great games which will run fine on your setup fine if you are not after the best graphics you can get currently.

There comes a point where you choke your target market. There's two modus operandi for selling things. 1. you charge a massive price and hope you sell enough to make a profit on what it cost to make you. 2. you 'turn and burn' and sell them cheaper, but, sell more of them.

There's no reason at all to go with option 1. The sensible thing to do is make your product available to the entire market, not just a small portion of it. People bought the 970 in droves because it was cheaper than the 980 and almost as good (at 1080p). And that's fine. Maybe that gave Nvidia the headroom to create a stupid product. The thing is the stupid product is actually needed by people like me who have a 4k monitor.

I'm not paying two grand to play a game. Sorry, the madness ends there for me. I bought my Titan Blacks because I thought they would make for a safe bet. Yet here I am, ten months after release, and Nvidia are already dropping game support for them. That's disgusting. I thought by spending £1400 I would be safe for a couple of years, not 10 months.

I'm not going to rip into the people that are actually paying these prices. It's their lookout. I just hope they have the funds in place for future releases, given that they're willing to spend the sort of money PC gaming now costs.

Tonester0011 · 23 May 2015 at 15:10

Love to see what heap of **** you reckon 2k will get you, moronic statment.

africanos23 · 23 May 2015 at 15:20

ALXAndy IMO, I think you probably didn't calculate what you are going to need to pay to be able to play games @ 4K with reasonable settings.

I think getting a 1440p monitor (G-Sync or not) or maybe even a 1080p monitor would probably give your hardware better future-proofing.

Maybe do what Boom is doing - selling before other hardware comes out and grab a new GPU (rinse-repeat).

You're current running 2x TX Blacks right ? Sell them and grab the GTX980Ti or 390X depending on performance.

No problems in terms of driver support and always getting the newest tech with minimal or no extra costs.

ALXAndy · 23 May 2015 at 15:25

africanos23 said:
ALXAndy IMO, I think you probably didn't calculate what you are going to need to pay to be able to play games @ 4K with reasonable settings.

I think getting a 1440p monitor (G-Sync or not) or maybe even a 1080p monitor would probably give your hardware better future-proofing.

Maybe do what Boom is doing - selling before other hardware comes out and grab a new GPU (rinse-repeat).

You're current running 2x TX Blacks right ? Sell them and grab the GTX980Ti or 390X depending on performance.

No problems in terms of driver support and always getting the newest tech with minimal or no extra costs.

I calculated it perfectly, thank you. £3.5k.

And here I am ten months later unable to play a game at even close to reasonable settings because Nvidia can't be arsed to support a card they charged £699 for ten months ago.

I'm not selling them and buying anything else. What, you think I would be happy with £1390 for ten months?

Sorry mate. You carry on supporting them in their greed and trying to add reason to it but as I said before, I'm out.

What I have will have to do now. My motherboard went bang so I've bought a reasonably priced second hand one (for £120) but other than that the rig can rot.

Tonester0011 · 23 May 2015 at 15:27

Buy lates, and blames his own stupidity on others.
Classic ALX.

Kaapstad · 23 May 2015 at 15:48

I think I will still be using my TXs in 2 years time no problem.

Classic mistake people make with GPUs is they buy the fastest option rather than the best one.

Running out of memory will hurt your gaming experience long before running out of GPU grunt if you are using SLI or CF. In 12 months time games may need 20% more GPU grunt and memory, this is not a problem for the TXs but the 980ti and Fiji cards could struggle.

jommy999 · 23 May 2015 at 15:50

PullTheTricker said:
I never understood oc editions for gpu's. It only takes a bit of testing unigine bench and tweaking Afterburner. If somebody can tell me what advantages it has over doing it manually yourself, I'd like to hear though.

as far as i know SC one they cheery pick them and make it SC . so usually i can put extra overclocked on top of factory oc that they are using .

when i bought my 780ti SC, it was £20 more than normal one so the price isn't that much different too

Boomstick777 · 23 May 2015 at 15:55

Kaapstad said:
I think I will still be using my TXs in 2 years time no problem.

Classic mistake people make with GPUs is they buy the fastest option rather than the best one.

Running out of memory will hurt your gaming experience long before running out of GPU grunt if you are using SLI or CF. In 12 months time games may need 20% more GPU grunt and memory, this is not a problem for the TXs but the 980ti and Fiji cards could struggle.

You keep older cards anyway don't you? Will you pick up some 3XX series cards as well, or just using TX for next couple years?

I agree with your comment on memory, upcoming GPU's need to have 8GB imho. Especially as they get marketed for 4K, 4K this and 4K that, with only 4GB/6GB it's not enough.. In that way Titan X will have some longevity. Really hope AMD cards are 8GB, pointless otherwise, unless HBM somehow differs in the way in the way it utilises it's capacity.

Don't like all this uncertainty lol, worried will take a big loss on TX so soon after buying..

africanos23 · 23 May 2015 at 16:06

ALXAndy said:
I calculated it perfectly, thank you. £3.5k.

And here I am ten months later unable to play a game at even close to reasonable settings because Nvidia can't be arsed to support a card they charged £699 for ten months ago.

I'm not selling them and buying anything else. What, you think I would be happy with £1390 for ten months?

Sorry mate. You carry on supporting them in their greed and trying to add reason to it but as I said before, I'm out.

What I have will have to do now. My motherboard went bang so I've bought a reasonably priced second hand one (for £120) but other than that the rig can rot.

I'm on a single TX (which is roughly Titan Black SLI) @ 4K. I'm running mixed setting (mostly medium) on GTA V and W3 and getting 60 FPS.

Happy TBH it's 4K afterall with a single GPU.

Kaapstad · 23 May 2015 at 16:06

Boomstick777 said:
You keep older cards anyway don't you? Will you pick up some 3XX series cards as well, or just using TX for next couple years?

I agree with your comment on memory, upcoming GPU's need to have 8GB imho. Especially as they get marketed for 4K, 4K this and 4K that, with only 4GB/6GB it's not enough.. In that way Titan X will have some longevity. Really hope AMD cards are 8GB, pointless otherwise, unless HBM somehow differs in the way in the way it utilises it's capacity.

Don't like all this uncertainty lol, worried will take a big loss on TX so soon after buying..

The only 3XX cards I am interested in are the Fiji ones which will allow me to complete the "Red Machine" which will then be able to take on "Titan Rex" for some 4 on 4 action.

Gripen90 · 23 May 2015 at 16:20

Kaapstad said:
I think I will still be using my TXs in 2 years time no problem.

Classic mistake people make with GPUs is they buy the fastest option rather than the best one.

Running out of memory will hurt your gaming experience long before running out of GPU grunt if you are using SLI or CF. In 12 months time games may need 20% more GPU grunt and memory, this is not a problem for the TXs but the 980ti and Fiji cards could struggle.

Hehe you will swap cards as soon as new and faster ones are available. Longevity isn't really the core of the problem... It is all about being in the fast lane ☺
Personally I buy cards for performance not for endurance through the years, since I rarely have the same cards for more then a year.

LoadsaMoney · 23 May 2015 at 16:24

Boomstick777 said:
Really hope AMD cards are 8GB, pointless otherwise, unless HBM somehow differs in the way in the way it utilises it's capacity.

Fijis only 4GB.

Kaapstad · 23 May 2015 at 16:33

LoadsaMoney said:
Fijis only 4GB.

Using max settings Fiji will beat the 980ti on Shadows of Mordor bench using max settings @1080p and 1440p. Now there is a prediction.

chaparral · 23 May 2015 at 16:41

Boomstick777 said:
I got to agree with ALXAndy on pricing. It's def become more expensive than ever to stay at the high end. Even if you include inflation and VAT, we are paying way over the odds.

But there also a good side

Now days a highend GPU can last much much longer and will give much higher FPS
10+ years ago the fastest GPU available would give you not much over 30FPS in the most demanding games of the time at high Resolution

kitch9 · 23 May 2015 at 16:55

Mayh3M said:
Some people believe that there's some kind of binning process that takes place. A card that comes factory overclocked is likely to have a higher manual overclock limit. At least, that's the idea.

They will be binned to run at the oc speeds only. I've had a few oc cards with next to no headroom.

straxusii · 23 May 2015 at 17:40

Sadly having bought a 4k Gsync monitor I am now destined to suck on the devil's **** forever unless AMD produce a card that does 60fps minimum at 4k :-(

Dewgy · 23 May 2015 at 17:49

I'm really hoping it won't end up being a 5.5GB thing. Nvidia cards are always best in the high end and I'm hoping that the 970 fiasco showed them that people won't stand for that kind of thing. If they ever pull something like that again I will just have to unfortunately never by nvidia cards again.

ALXAndy · 23 May 2015 at 17:52

Dewgy said:
I'm really hoping it won't end up being a 5.5GB thing. Nvidia cards are always best in the high end and I'm hoping that the 970 fiasco showed them that people won't stand for that kind of thing. If they ever pull something like that again I will just have to unfortunately never by nvidia cards again.

What are you talking about??

Nvidia lost nothing with the 970 it was just a lame apology.

Only the vendors lost out.

RUN4Y0URL1F3 · 23 May 2015 at 17:53

ALXAndy said:
If I wanted to game with everything turned down and a crap resolution I would just buy the console, mate.

PC gaming is about eye candy and copious amounts of. Not turning things down.

And the price for that has become completely unreasonable. Seriously, you actually think the Titan X is worth nearly a grand? really?

The price for the high end is getting more and more expensive with every release. Now it's at the point of ridiculous.

So what to do eh? vote with your wallet is what I will do. Not crumble and pay the sickening prices being demanded for a new GPU.

I was actually annoyed at spending £439 on a 7970. There's no way on earth I am spending £800 plus on a GPU. I would rather go on holiday (which I just did, lovely week by the south coast).

I'm out. I'm not going to encourage this utter nonsense. The more people do that the higher the prices rise.

It all comes down to how much you earn.
Furthermore, I'm happy to pay ~£1400 in GPUs every year, considering that I get back ~£700 by selling my old cards... This means I'm spendin ~£700 each year for an SLI upgrade. I don't consider this a lot.

ALXAndy · 23 May 2015 at 17:53

chaparral said:
But there also a good side

Now days a highend GPU can last much much longer and will give much higher FPS
10+ years ago the fastest GPU available would give you not much over 30FPS in the most demanding games of the time at high Resolution

I've had my Titan Blacks for ten months and already Nvidia can't be bothered to support them any more.

It's all just such a skank.