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@Rev85 You can't stop progress... Also I'm sure many like myself are in the same boat, I'm running off a slow working GTX 980 showing problems. I recently upgraded from an i5 Sandybridge to X5800 (entire new computer), once I get my 3080 I look forward to not having to upgrade for at least another 5 years. 40xx series doesn't matter to me at this point.
 
Rev85 said:
With all the talk of an impending 40xx series coming out soon, I really wonder just how any other industry could actually get away with something like this.

I mean, seriously…imagine a whole swathe of customers ordering a product and within six months, customers who haven’t even had that order fulfilled are told “your product is end of life and probably won’t be produced much any more.”

Even worse than that, a further three months later, those people that jumped ship and bought an even newer and more expensive version of the product being told that even THAT one is going to be surpassed.

I fully understand the need for continuous innovation and regular product releases etc, but SERIOUSLY…would consumers in any other industry really find this an acceptable practice? I’m not trying to get at OCUK here, it’s more at nVidia (and possibly AIB partners).

I just think that this whole process has turned me off buying components. The way they’ve handled this, with production delays (whether these were in their control or not), the significant mispricing of their MSRP, and the leap towards the 40xx series and the 30xx series isn’t even cold yet. It just smacks of “screw our customers. They’ll buy whatever we pump out.”

Things like this are why I’m turning into a socialist.
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The 4000 series is a way off yet the talk has been Nvidia giving the 3000 series a mid-life refresh with some 'Super' variants which will be the time when some of the existing lines like the 3070 and 3080 will go EOL and the new Super cards come in with higher MRSP lol.

As for customers who haven't had their order fulfilled and getting told the product they order is now end of life that's already happened on a couple of SKU's already.

Going socialist won't fix your GPU issues. Money talks at the end of the day.
 
All this 4000 series talk is bonkers! It's all chinese whispers and rumour. I guarantee that none of the AIBs will have any 4000 series visibility on road maps yet so any "news" can only have come out of Nvidia or their fabricators and those guys are more secretive than the CIA in general so I think it's all BS. The earliest any believable rumours usually emerge is six months, which is roughly when the AIBs get told to given a buying schedule for current chipsets.
 
ScottiB said:
All this 4000 series talk is bonkers! It's all chinese whispers and rumour. I guarantee that none of the AIBs will have any 4000 series visibility on road maps yet so any "news" can only have come out of Nvidia or their fabricators and those guys are more secretive than the CIA in general so I think it's all BS. The earliest any believable rumours usually emerge is six months, which is roughly when the AIBs get told to given a buying schedule for current chipsets.
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Latest 'leaks' have the Ampere refresh coming Q1 next year so if that is indeed the case then I can see the next-gen from Nvidia slipping into 2023! They don't launch a new line-up just to get a few months out of them!!
 
ScottiB said:
All this 4000 series talk is bonkers! It's all chinese whispers and rumour. I guarantee that none of the AIBs will have any 4000 series visibility on road maps yet so any "news" can only have come out of Nvidia or their fabricators and those guys are more secretive than the CIA in general so I think it's all BS. The earliest any believable rumours usually emerge is six months, which is roughly when the AIBs get told to given a buying schedule for current chipsets.
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I've heard rumours of an RTX 3070 and 3080 being released, seems to good to be true, these current RTX 2000 cards are doing just fine in the hands of the rich:cry:
 
Its been a fun ride but I'm out. Cancelled my order for an Eagle OC after being in the high 200's for a while and managed to snag a better card elsewhere for a little extra cash that will be with me the middle of next week. Good luck and God speed folks, may you get the cards you desire.
 
ScottiB said:
All this 4000 series talk is bonkers! It's all chinese whispers and rumour. I guarantee that none of the AIBs will have any 4000 series visibility on road maps yet so any "news" can only have come out of Nvidia or their fabricators and those guys are more secretive than the CIA in general so I think it's all BS. The earliest any believable rumours usually emerge is six months, which is roughly when the AIBs get told to given a buying schedule for current chipsets.
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Well you’re entitled to your own opinion but it must be pointed out that in this thread people have repeatedly posted CORRECT rumors LONG before you guys ever replied to our comments about them, or acknowledged them. We knew the TI was coming, and it’s specs, and both it’s launch windows, from leaks. We knew LHR was coming, and when, from leaks (I myself posted it in this thread, months beforehand). We had SEEN 3080Ti AIBs in photos and in boxes on pallets, when you were claiming they couldn’t possibly exist because Nvidia and distributors haven’t told you anything about it in advance. As if they ever do...

WE currently KNOW the next batch is due 2022, and you should too. Go watch the 3060Ti reveal from JANUARY 2021. Jensen Huang himself said it. It’s called Ampere Next (ie, not 40 series, but a refresh - 30 Super, as 40 series is codenamed Lovelace)...

So go on, tell me, how exactly is that Chinese whispers? It’s official information, vague, but directly from the horses mouth. It’s even written on Ampere’s Wikipedia page ffs.

Every time we point out something we KNOW is coming, you lot act like it’s complete hearsay. Then two weeks later when it becomes real and it’s all over the news, you still have no answers. To you, these GPUs represent business, profit. To us, they might represent quality of life, or even our income. You’re not the ones who have been trawling the net all day every day for shreds of hope of attaining a card you might physically need to earn a living. You’re not the people refreshing stock alerts 24/7, and watching news like hawks. We are.

I understand that you probably have to be very careful what you say, for legal reasons, and you don’t wanna speculate, but you talk to us like we’re conspiracy theorists or something for stating something we read in the news. We have to keep an eye on what people further up the manufacture/supply chain are doing, because you’ve basically had no information for us since the start. All we are doing is trying to help eachother see the bigger picture, so we can get through this fiasco.

Please don’t go round telling people they are wrong, when you yourself are completely in the dark, and have diddly squat info to prove otherwise. It’s bad practice on a social level, but even worse when you’re representing a business... I am sorry for ranting, its nothing personal, I get it 2040 pages and 40k posts, you’re tired of our ****, but that’s no reason to shoot people down for having a valid discussion...
 
Supers at this point it seems quite stupid since we already had Ti's for all the line up and honestly where are they going to fit in to the stack as current products are already so close in performance. Nvidia should be focusing on getting cards out to those who are still in queues, dropping prices and also bringing out some affordable 3050/ti products at the budget end.

My guess is that Nvidia wants to bring Lovelace out earlier than expected next year since they've had all the supply problems and poor yields on the Samsung 8nm node and the talk of supers is just smoke and mirrors to keep AMD guessing.
 
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Anyone know how long refunds are taking at the minute? Had the email to confirm the refund has been sent to my payment provider but they usually show up pending straight away with monzo but there is nothing shown on bank app.
 
Biohills-Liam said:
Anyone know how long refunds are taking at the minute? Had the email to confirm the refund has been sent to my payment provider but they usually show up pending straight away with monzo but there is nothing shown on bank app.
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You're best off asking that in the customer services section, IIRC due to the way the banks/payment processors work it might be a few working days.

In my experience it's not uncommon for things processed on a Saturday/Sunday to not show up properly in my online banking until Monday at the earliest due to the way the banks process stuff (sometimes if I use a self service till at Morrisons on Friday it may not show up until Tuesday).
 
Joxeon said:
Supers at this point it seems quite stupid since we already had Ti's for all the line up and honestly where are they going to fit in to the stack as current products are already so close in performance. Nvidia should be focusing on getting cards out to those who are still in queues, dropping prices and also bringing out some affordable 3050/ti products at the budget end.

My guess is that Nvidia wants to bring Lovelace out earlier than expected next year since they've had all the supply problems and poor yields on the Samsung 8nm node and the talk of supers is just smoke and mirrors to keep AMD guessing.
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The supers will be nothing more than an adjustment to the VRAM, a few more cuda cores and the bus width changed to allow the more VRAM, you know all the 3080 owners want more than 10GB VRAM and they will all jump on a 11GB model and sell up to gain 1GB extra and half a frame more in their favourite game.


The supers are coming sadly and next gen cards 2023 when they get 5nm or expect another 8nm++++ node from Samsung with 500w power use from day one and can take 750w+ when bios hacked (god I hope not, this gen is silly hot and power use is silly), so everyone on a 850w PSU can upgrade again their psu.

Next gen without 5nm from Samsung or TSMC or TSMC makes 7nm better at heat and power = cards that run super hot and use a lot of power for a small gain in performance, they really can't be making a GPU for home pcs to use more power than what they have now or it just all gets silly and what next FE card will end up 4 slot as standard and AIBS 5 slot? Also don't see 4000 series or the 7000 series being more than the regular 25-30% bump at best (reality maybe 15-20%) but they will sell them as better RT cards but won't really make none RT games much faster again.

But... looking at history 2017...2020 (all new gen cards came out and the mining boom)...2023.. guess what mining boom and the craze again and no stock and scalpers again and miners paying silly prices for cards. The pattern is there and one Nvidia and AMD want to keep going, I expect next AMD card to be better at mining so they get a slice of the pie next time too and they will have a very good compute card again and not one designed for gamers as that backfired for them this time.

Wait till 2023 when next gen get sold.. we will be back to this situation and nothing to do with covid or brexit, just the market has changed a lot thanks to mining and many more pc gamers (but the desktop is dead.. :rolleyes:.. highest sales ever this and last year for pcs, desktops and laptops. Yes because people working from home, but people working from home don't need high end gear, sales of high end gear has gone crazy compared to how it was before).
 
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