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Delitisco said:
They wouldn't. They've made it clear EOL means you're out of luck.
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Pretty poor if that is true. I placed my preorder in good faith and to get shanked after waiting so long would be kick in the sack! I guess it happened to those MSI customers, so everyone is in the firing line.

If there is no option to switch to a 3080ti. I will be taking my future business elsewhere. I'm sure that will cause many tears but as a consumer it's all I can do because crying on the forums gets you nowhere. I won't ever order another Inno3D product again, that is for sure. I saw one miner with more cards than OC has received in 7 months..

I guess it's time we all started filling out that refund form. Get your money back so the cash is ready to battle all the bots on 3080ti stock.
 
Alt0153 said:
proof? or just spouting
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You have to listen to what was said on the investor call. Nvidia (or AMD for that matter) never publicly announce when a product goes EOL they just announce new products and stop shipping old ones to the AIB's who then tell retailers or distributers what lines are EOL.

The fact is the Ampere is due for a midlife refresh so this really shouldn't be a surprise to anyone. AMD caught Nvidia out with it's brilliant RDNA2 architecture and Nvidia will want to reposition it's line up with the Ti model's much like they did with X models (replaced the standard non X cards) with previous generation.
 
denigor777 said:
You are right It is much better for OCUK to offer 3080Ti upgrades to those in the 3080 queues first. Buyer pays the delta.
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I didn't say that lol. I was saying it's very unlikely due to price delta involved. Everyone will getting a refund shortly and you will have to take your chances on the scalper market along with everyone else. Better yet buy some stock in one of the tech companies and make money rather then just let erode away away in OCUK's fiduciary bank account.
 
Freddie1980 said:
AMD caught Nvidia out with it's brilliant RDNA2 architecture
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I doubt RDNA2 is causing Nvidia too many sleepless nights - aside from forcing their hand on shipping the 3060 with a pointless amount of VRAM, Nvidia clearly has the technology advantage in this generation of GPUs (although I'm hoping we'll see some rapid innovation from AMD to bridge the gap).
 
Aegis said:
I doubt RDNA2 is causing Nvidia too many sleepless nights - aside from forcing their hand on shipping the 3060 with a pointless amount of VRAM, Nvidia clearly has the technology advantage in this generation of GPUs (although I'm hoping we'll see some rapid innovation from AMD to bridge the gap).
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I not sure about a tech advantage but certainly a big advantage in software and feature sets (DLSS being the obvious one). After RDNA 2 is a beast at rasterisation rendering and has Ampere number on that front. Where Ampere can flex is the sheer amount of silicon it has with all those extra processing cores ideal for 4K+ rendering and tensor calcs (DLSS).

AMD can do all that if it wishes, RT and tensor cores are nothing special there just striped down cuda cores at the end of the day but being smaller saves space.

Although Nvidia can sell everything it makes that's no reason not to respond to RDNA 2. Nvidia are a relentless 400 lbs gorrila and under Jen they never rest and always responds to it competitors moves.
 
It's pretty clear that Nvidia considers a rasterization arms race as a technological dead-end based on their marketing (and overreaction to Hardware Unboxed's criticism of the 30 series rasterization performance) - and they're right - with enough bandwidth and VRAM, a future iteration of DLSS could theoretically target 8k, 16k - whatever - without having to brute force it.

Ray Tracing will undoubtedly become a crucial technology going forward (just look at Digital Foundry's video on Metro Exodus to see the impact it has on lighting for the artists, let alone the gamers) and I suspect these kinds of technologies will become next big battleground for AMD and Nvidia.
 
denigor777 said:
You are right It is much better for OCUK to offer 3080Ti upgrades to those in the 3080 queues first. Buyer pays the delta.
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It's incredibly unlikely that we'll put any new cards online for launch but it's not as simple as people seem to think to switch people in 3080 queues to an alternative card. For starters,
1) We won't have thousands of cards.
2) We don't have the manpower to have thousands of conversations and take thousands of extra payments.
3) Depending on the original payment method that might not even be an option.
I'm sorry but that's just the realistic situation.

also, before anybody asks. We haven't heard anything official about the launch and we don't have a clue about AIB pricing yet.
 
Freddie1980 said:
According to the recent Nvidia investors call it looks like the vanilla RTX 3080 line is going EOL once the 3080Ti and 3070Ti lands (mid May sometime) which means refunds for those pre-orders once the AIB's confirm to OCUK. Hazzah!
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Are you sure it isn't just mining nerfed versions of 3000 series cards that are being released? That would mean the original versions would be EOL?
 
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