Nvidia getting it from all angles! lol

[Darujhistan]

Read the thread..doh
"provide special discounts to owners of the GeForce GTX 970" None has got a discount as yet. I forgot..fanboys

How does that have anything to do with I posted?

 

[Boomstick777]

That's until you swap whats inside your case

You lost me here?

We've got a GTX 980, doesn't mean I'm gonna say what Nvidia did with the 970 was ok. I've got no brand loyalty either way, just go with whatever my wallet will allow at the time. This 970 business is just flat out wrong imho. Weird memory config, less ROPS, less cache. Blatantly false advertising, let's be honest only a turnip would think otherwise, or someone who is obliged through affiliation to say otherwise. I've always bought Nvidia and AMD cards and this has def soured my opinion of Nvidia.

Got no time for fanboys or liers, so that means no more Nvidia cards I guess and no dealings with Nvidia fanboys..

Never say never but atm I got no plans to buy anymore Nvidia cards after this..

 

[chaparral]

Amd mess up nvidia/fanboys mock them.
Nvidia mess up Amd/fanboys mock them.

I really hope we cant get a third gpu/cpu maker to make this really interesting

p.s the 970 still beats the 290x

bring back 3dfx with a new Voodoo card

NVidia owns 3DFX...........

 

[Gregster]

Got no time for fanboys or liers,

Spoiler

 

[Ian Evey]

“Anyone returning their GTX970 and wanting a great deal on a Radeon with a full 4GB please let us know,” said Roy Taylor, corporate vice president of global channel sales at AMD, in a Twitter post.

"4GB MEANS 4GB"

pwnage.

That would be a but cruel if you had a 290, But as you have a 2gb card its just funny

 

[no_1_dave]

I'm glad this is happening! false advertising a gpu which is useless after 3.5gb is not on!

Doesn't seem useless when using over 4GB to me...
I have been reading up on loads of different sites and they are all struggling to recreate a scenario where the "gimped" 500MB is useless.

Look at guru3d for example...
They pushed the card to 4GB and noticed no difference at all.
They had to use specially designed programs just to detect a slight lag spike that lasted mere milliseconds and can't even conclusively say it is because of the memory setup.

I guess your meaning of useless is different to mine, especially considering the 970 is faster than a 290x even when using 4GB vram. Yea, it's really useless...

 

[Orangey]

Funny how people make a big deal out of stuff like Mantle SDK and marketing when it's none of their business and has zero impact on their potential enjoyment of AMD gear. Pretty clear you're only interested in biting back bringing up stuff like that.

 

[Doogles]

look at all this fanboyism. You do realize a 970 is still better than a 290x?

That is being a little silly, I can link you to many benchmarks claiming otherwise. GTX 970 might be better in one or two Nvidia sided games though.

 

[theMilitant]

I just hope nvidia learn their lesson from this fiasco. Not sure how they thought they'd ever get away with it.

 

[se_vietboi]

It isn't technically wrong for Nvidia or any other company to milk or overcharge for their products but illegally falsely advertising and keeping quiet about it until exposed definitely is.

People buy from them because they deliver but I think they are increasingly staining their reputation further each year.

 

[Tonester0011]

You lost me here?

You don't notice whenever you change the card in your machine you spend your time bigging up that particular brand?

Just funny to watch.

 

[ubersonic]

When you consider that Nvidia are the market leader with all the resources, and AMD are the underdog in an uphill financial struggle.

The comical thing is that the reason for that is because back when Nvidia were the plucky underdog upstart they managed to beat up both the giants of the day ATi and 3DFX in order to assume the throne.

As a long time user of GPU's from dozens of manufacturers I find it funny when people try and portray AMD/ATi as some kind of underdog hero like they are working out of a garage or something, they are a tech giant, the fact they are not currently the industry leader doesn't make them small fry or something.

 

[setter]

AMD, they make pretty good gpu's, the 290 series are impressive, yes they use a bit more power, they chuck out a bit more heat. As overclockers, were not really that fussed about that tbh. But, when it comes to cpu's, they are abysmal. They cant even compete with bloomfield x58 which is ancient now, let alone intels mainstream haswell, which tbh isnt that great, (and ive owned a few of those). Ive got an old x58 rig sitting here doing very little, 50 quid for a xeon hex core chip at auction, will match my 4790k at 4.7ghz in certain things. Thats platform longevity.

 

[JediFragger]

Nvidia should change their tagline to 'Getting ***** in all holes'

 

[TheRealDeal]

AMD, they make pretty good gpu's, the 290 series are impressive, yes they use a bit more power, they chuck out a bit more heat. As overclockers, were not really that fussed about that tbh. But, when it comes to cpu's, they are abysmal. They cant even compete with bloomfield x58 which is ancient now, let alone intels mainstream haswell, which tbh isnt that great, (and ive owned a few of those). Ive got an old x58 rig sitting here doing very little, 50 quid for a xeon hex core chip at auction, will match my 4790k at 4.7ghz in certain things. Thats platform longevity.

Yea I still love my i7 920 @ 4ghz. I believe it still scores more in the physics test in firestrike compared to just about all of Am d's cpu's. For me though it still pushes a single top end gpu in games to get a good experience.

 

[humbug]

Yea I still love my i7 920 @ 4ghz. I believe it still scores more in the physics test in firestrike compared to just about all of Am d's cpu's. For me though it still pushes a single top end gpu in games to get a good experience.

I had a 930 D0, great chip, really, i now have an FX-9590 running at 4.9Ghz 24/7 on a £40 Water Cooler.

In terms of overclocked heat, overclocking it's self and multi-threaded performance my opinion is the FX is better.

The 930 was a great chip, but i do think the FX 8 core (While not as good as intel's £250 i7's) is massively under estimated and it's faults exaggerated.

The performance is very good in almost anything i use it for, it easily scores 10K in FireStrike Physics, in modern games it's quicker than an i5 at-least, sometimes trading blows with that £250 i7. It's very powerful for encoding and rendering, and game engines that understand the architecture, that treat it as an 8 core. not a 4 core.

It's fast, snappy, stable, fun to overclock and a joy to use, the rhetoric it gets is undeserved.

The i7 D0 only really has it when the game or application is from it's own time.

 

[TheRealDeal]

I had a 930 D0, great chip, really, i now have an FX-9590 running at 4.9Ghz 24/7 on a £40 Water Cooler.

In terms of overclocked heat, overclocking it's self and multi-threaded performance my opinion is the FX is better.

The 930 was a great chip, but i do think the FX 8 core (While not as good as intel's £250 i7's) is massively under estimated and it's faults exaggerated.

The performance is very good in almost anything i use it for, it easily scores 10K in FireStrike Physics, in modern games it's quicker than an i5 at-least, sometimes trading blows with that £250 i7.

It's fast, snappy, stable fun to overclock and a joy to use, the rhetoric it gets is undeserved.

The i7 D0 only really has it when the game or application is from it's own time.

10k is more than I can score in firestrike. I am around 9600 from cold. It's still very respectable for an old chip.

 

[humbug]

10k is more than I can score in firestrike. I am around 9600 from cold. It's still very respectable for an old chip.

I scored that on my old 8350 @ 4.5Ghz with 1600Mhz RAM.

 

[humbug]

Cryengine 3 (V3.4 for Crysis 3) is a product of AMD + Crytek, it has AMD's Modular CPU optimisation built in, it was at the time one of the few engines that treats the CPU as an 8 core, not a 4 core.

It's very telling, Welcome To The Jungle is the most CPU intensive part of the game, edges out an 8 thread i7, just.

 

[TheRealDeal]

I scored that on my old 8350 @ 4.5Ghz with 1600Mhz RAM.

You need to do a new firestrike run as you current score puts you around 1000 physics points behind me with the 1080t. There's no amd cpu above me atm. I did manage around 9750 on that run while at 4.2 you were around 8700. The above results show what is possible yet we know developers are lazy.