NVIDIA GPUs to Accelerate Microsoft Azure

[humbug]

That's life. I understand how the world turns to a degree with computers and I was expecting there to be a catch with getting W10 for free. There is many things in life I don't like (paying to get into a club, paying tax, paying NI, paying car parks etc etc but I accept these things and if a subscription service is indeed coming, so be it. I can't say I would be happy but like everything, if you want it, pay for it.

Free to play games are the most expensive games I have ever played for the record

You don't get it, its not just the cost to you, its the freedom you enjoy right now as a PC gamer.

# Microsoft charge Developers to host their games adding to end user price.
# End user pays a recurring fee to Microsoft to play those games online.
# Game IQ and resolution settings dicted by Mircosoft.
# Added latency from streaming.

 

[Gregster]

You don't get it, its not just the cost to you, its the freedom you enjoy right now as a PC gamer.

No, I do get it and quoting your speculation doesn't make you right. If Nvidia supplied the GPUs and Microsoft hosted the servers, would you expect to get it for free?

 

[Marine-RX179]

No, I do get it and quoting your speculation doesn't make you right. If Nvidia supplied the GPUs and Microsoft hosted the servers, would you expect to get it for free?

No, I would expect that we would need to purchase a special £150-£200 Nvidia brand router with a proprietary module inside it in order to use the Cloud gaming feature, base on how 3D Vision was and Gsync monitors are

 

[humbug]

No, I do get it and quoting your speculation doesn't make you right. If Nvidia supplied the GPUs and Microsoft hosted the servers, would you expect to get it for free?

I already have my own GPU, i bought it out of choice for my needs, i have it setup 'just so'

I have no need for Microsoft's GPU's because i'm a PC Gamer and i can play my Games online without having to pay Microsoft for that privilege.

Why do you have a PC? genuine question.

What i don't understand is your frustration at my making these points, if you want to farm out the hardware to run your games you can already do that right here.



Is it just that this ^^^^ machine doesn't run Nvidia hardware? the logo theme is green, would that help?

 

[FoxEye]

Cloud gaming with UKs IT infrastructure
OK. Maybe next decade.

BT: "Copper is still fine for everyone. Nobody needs fibre all the way to their premises. We have the best network in Europe (yeah right, haha, these suckers will believe anything!)"

Unless the UK government pays them to do it, BT will stick with copper for the last mile forever. They will simply not take the hit to their profits to replace it, ever. Ever.

 

[Gregster]

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Not sure why you keep baiting me and it is rather childish. The thread is about Nvidia GPUs in conjunction with Microsofts cloud (Azure) and how professionals can use this service. It could save a company a fortune in the long run with buying expensive professional GPUs.

Nvidia also supply gaming style GPUs to gamers and they won't want to lose those sales. My thoughts of cloud gaming don't just go the route of Nvidia + Microsoft, I was thinking about my home computer using its power to let me game on a crappy tablet/laptop with decent settings and playing just as well as my home system does. The Shield Tablet is evidence that this can be done but ideally, it isn't the best for fast paced shooters but in a couple of years time, who knows.

 

[humbug]

Not sure why you keep baiting me and it is rather childish. The thread is about Nvidia GPUs in conjunction with Microsofts cloud (Azure) and how professionals can use this service. It could save a company a fortune in the long run with buying expensive professional GPUs.

Nvidia also supply gaming style GPUs to gamers and they won't want to lose those sales. My thoughts of cloud gaming don't just go the route of Nvidia + Microsoft, I was thinking about my home computer using its power to let me game on a crappy tablet/laptop with decent settings and playing just as well as my home system does. The Shield Tablet is evidence that this can be done but ideally, it isn't the best for fast paced shooters but in a couple of years time, who knows.

Don't flatter yourself Greg, i made those points for anyone reading.

You can still have your local Nvidia Hardware, you would still need it to play games by those unwilling to sign up to XBox Live, there will be quiet a few of those, mostly Indy developers.

But those who do will get the advantage of being able to sell their games to a much wider audience, just about any device will run them, but they will not be able to do that outside of XBox Live by contract.

 

[fs123]

BT: "Copper is still fine for everyone. Nobody needs fibre all the way to their premises. We have the best network in Europe (yeah right, haha, these suckers will believe anything!)"

Unless the UK government pays them to do it, BT will stick with copper for the last mile forever. They will simply not take the hit to their profits to replace it, ever. Ever.

I'm on cable and I still have problems now and again with latency or disconnections/total loss of connection. For pure cloud gaming you would have to have guaranteed fast connections which never disconnect. A dream for the time being.

As for where MS is going with this. It's what they wanted to do when they launched the Xbox One with their 24 hr online requirement and disc media tied to user accounts,etc. It's basically total control and online DRM for all. There was a backlash back then but now they are bringing it in slowly and sneakily.

They want to kill all used games markets and keep everyone paying subscriptions.

 

[bru]

So basically we have the choice of NVidia and Microsoft, which might be expensive but it will work and probably be well used.
Or AMD and Microsoft, that would end up being cheaper/free, have the software farmed out to somebody else and dropped by the wayside after a year. Not forgetting as popular as Games for Windows Live, except on this forum.



Disclaimer: this post is a joke, it is not meant to be taken seriously.

 

[TheRealDeal]

So basically we have the choice of NVidia and Microsoft, which might be expensive but it will work and probably be well used.
Or AMD and Microsoft, that would end up being cheaper/free, have the software farmed out to somebody else and dropped by the wayside after a year. Not forgetting as popular as Games for Windows Live, except on this forum.



Disclaimer: this post is a joke, it is not meant to be taken seriously.

Nah they will just end up falling out like they did over the original Xbox .

 

[humbug]

I don't know what the legal implications would be for MS to prevent Developers selling outside XBox Live if they chose to take up such a contract and it involves MS rendering and streaming the game.

They may be with-in their rights to contract those developers to sell through the Live channel only for Microsoft Platforms, so there is no way around running the game locally on the end users hardware (On Microsoft Platforms)

I doubt they would be able to stop developers selling for other Platforms, Linux - Vulkan.

 

[Orangey]

Must be hard up for NV puff pieces today.

 

[humbug]

Must be hard up for NV puff pieces today.

lol.....

 

[Gregster]

Must be hard up for NV puff pieces today.

I thought it was interesting and worth posting?

 

[andybird123]

I don't know what the legal implications would be for MS to prevent Developers selling outside XBox Live if they chose to take up such a contract and it involves MS rendering and streaming the game.

They may be with-in their rights to contract those developers to sell through the Live channel only for Microsoft Platforms, so there is no way around running the game locally on the end users hardware (On Microsoft Platforms)

I doubt they would be able to stop developers selling for other Platforms, Linux - Vulkan.

Even if MS do their own cloud gaming service, they aren't going to kill off windows / discrete gaming

 

[Marine-RX179]

Even if MS do their own cloud gaming service, they aren't going to kill off windows / discrete gaming

I think what humbug was getting at was MS isn't just going to sit there and let other companys come along and host their own Cloud gaming service on the Windows platform. They are not going to share that fine piece of meat with others, when they can (potentially) have it all to themselves.

Hence why humbug mentioned on other OS platforms it would may be possible.

 

[pantbash]

I could see cloud gaming working only working for certain very niche types of games.
Games that don't really need a quick connect between input and observed action.

VR would be terrible, imagine the nausea you would get when every head turn had to be processed locally, encapulsated into IP, sent to Azure in some giant data centre down the other end of the country. Then processed, turned into a video stream, encapsulated into IP again and sent back down to the home router and then headset.


Might make a good SIM of being really really drunk.

 

[andybird123]

I think what humbug was getting at was MS isn't just going to sit there and let other companys come along and host their own Cloud gaming service on the Windows platform. They are not going to share that fine piece of meat with others, when they can (potentially) have it all to themselves.

Hence why humbug mentioned on other OS platforms it would may be possible.

But he mentions MS wanting to stop people being able to play those games locally on their own hardware

 

[Wizzfizz]

VR, the new fad and talk of the industry

Cloud, another buzzword of the industry that's been around for an age

 

[layte]

I think what humbug was getting at was MS isn't just going to sit there and let other companys come along and host their own Cloud gaming service on the Windows platform. They are not going to share that fine piece of meat with others, when they can (potentially) have it all to themselves.

Hence why humbug mentioned on other OS platforms it would may be possible.

I can host Linux and Oracle on Azure, those are a much bigger threat to Microsoft's bottom line than the relatively small pie gaming is.