Nvidia Gsync announced 18/10/2013

murah · 18 Oct 2013 at 21:35

http://www.engadget.com/2013/10/18/nvidia-g-sync/

http://www.kitguru.net/peripherals/monitors/matthew-wilson/nvidia-announce-g-sync/

works on all cards from 660 and up

Could it be the holy grail of monitor refresh rates?

"G-SYNC synchronizes the monitor to the output of the GPU, instead of the GPU to the monitor (as is the case with V-Sync)

With V-Sync, the game engine has to plan when to start rendering the frame, so that it's finished right before the V-Sync signal. Start early and there is (small) lag, start later and you risk missing the frame "deadline" completely.

With G-Sync, the GPU tells the minitor whe the frame is ready, not the other way. This makes render timing much easier."

nicnik · 18 Oct 2013 at 23:19

It is interesting. No stutter or tearing

tdream · 19 Oct 2013 at 00:12

So all this time people living with sub 60 fps, were experiencing stuttering and tearing. I always raised an eyebrow when people said 40-50fps was a good gameplay experience. :rolleyes:

" I can't stress enough just how smooth the G-Sync experience was, it's a game changer."

Anand.

If you care about graphics buy Nvidia, if you care about sound buy AMD

Dash RipRock · 19 Oct 2013 at 00:29

tdream said:
So all this time people living with sub 60 fps, were experiencing stuttering and tearing. I always raised an eyebrow when people said 40-50fps was a good gameplay experience.

" I can't stress enough just how smooth the G-Sync experience was, it's a game changer."

Anand.

If you care about graphics buy Nvidia, if you care about sound buy AMD

Exactly even with a triple buffered image dropping to just 59 fps for the slightest amount of time causes one frame to be duplicated and causes a slight hitch.you can view it for yourself in pretty much any game by limiting your framerate to 59 (or 119 on a 120 hz display) skyrim is quite good to try this.Next find a long wall and go very close to it,select crouch and walk mode so your going very slowly then press your strafe key left or right to move along the wall..........see that? If not try a few times,see that odd skip every second or so?

You can thank/hate me later that I've drawn your attention to it and you'll even notice it when your playing normally from now on haha

P.s make sure you have vsync on cos you'll just see tearing,oh and obviously your gpu has to be able to render the limited fps total of course I.e 59 or 119

tdream · 19 Oct 2013 at 00:40

Dash RipRock said:
Exactly even with a triple buffered image dropping to just 59 fps for the slightest amount of time causes one frame to be duplicated and causes a slight hitch.you can view it for yourself in pretty much any game by limiting your framerate to 59 (or 119 on a 120 hz display) skyrim is quite good to try this.Next find a long wall and go very close to it,select crouch and walk mode so your going very slowly then press your strafe key left or right to move along the wall..........see that? If not try a few times,see that odd skip every second or so?

You can thank/hate me later that I've drawn your attention to it and you'll even notice it when your playing normally from now on haha

No need to worry, I noticed from the getgo

I was playing BF2 2560x1600 60fps vsynced with no drops back in the day, it was glorious!

Todays games add so many bull****ty effects you wouldn't even notice without side by side comparison, DOF, motion blur, SSAO, etc, etc. to drag your framerate into the dumps and break you out of 60fps heaven. I like my games crystal clear and smooth as silk tyvm.

Tbh I put up with it in newer games, SC2 atm, that has a horrendous engine. lol, 4v4's end up hovering around 20 fps

Though a new cpu in the mail should put that game in it's place.

humbug · 19 Oct 2013 at 00:44

Does this work with any monitor?

VincentHanna · 19 Oct 2013 at 00:54

Certainly not, you will need a new one.

humbug · 19 Oct 2013 at 01:04

VincentHanna said:
Certainly not, you will need a new one.

Will this work with any modern monitor, or is it just for specific monitors.

mine is an LG IPS 226

CAT-THE-FIFTH · 19 Oct 2013 at 01:07

humbug said:
Will this work with any modern monitor, or is it just for specific monitors.

mine is an LG IPS 226

It need additional hardware.

humbug · 19 Oct 2013 at 01:08

CAT-THE-FIFTH said:
It need additional hardware.

ah... at extra expense no doubt.

ok, thanks

Gregster · 19 Oct 2013 at 01:09

humbug said:
Does this work with any monitor?

VincentHanna said:
Certainly not, you will need a new one.

They have the Asus VG one ready I believe and the hardware to do it yourself and they will be adding more and more monitors with the chips already built in and also releasing the chips again for DIY.

They supply instructions and for the Asus monitor, they say 30 mins, so should be quite easy if you are not afraid of a screw driver.

humbug said:
ah... at extra expense no doubt.

ok, thanks

They certainly won't be giving it away.

humbug · 19 Oct 2013 at 01:13

Gregster said:
They have the Asus VG one ready I believe and the hardware to do it yourself and they will be adding more and more monitors with the chips already built in and also releasing the chips again for DIY.

They supply instructions and for the Asus monitor, they say 30 mins, so should be quite easy if you are not afraid of a screw driver.

They certainly won't be giving it away.

Will those monitors be locked to Nvidia only, I'm thinking this is something AMD might do aswell and I don't want to be locked to one GPU brand.

Gregster · 19 Oct 2013 at 01:22

humbug said:
Will those monitors be locked to Nvidia only, I'm thinking this is something AMD might do aswell and I don't want to be locked to one GPU brand.

I am willing to bet money that this will be locked to Nvidia but no reason why AMD can't get their hands on one and strip it down. I know where you are heading but that is completely out of our hands and proprietary stuff is above all of us and requires AMD and Nvidia to sort it out.

humbug · 19 Oct 2013 at 01:26

Gregster said:
I am willing to bet money that this will be locked to Nvidia but no reason why AMD can't get their hands on one and strip it down. I know where you are heading but that is completely out of our hands and proprietary stuff is above all of us and requires AMD and Nvidia to sort it out.

I don't want to get into the proprietary argument, I do think its a good idea and +1 to Nvidia for it.

But the rest, well you know me

Gregster · 19 Oct 2013 at 01:27

humbug said:
I don't want to get into the proprietary argument, I do think its a good idea and +1 to Nvidia for it.

But the rest, well you know me

It does cheese me off as well but like I said, well above our pay grade and too much water under the bridge it would seem. Win win for us if they ever did sort it out.

Suarez7 · 19 Oct 2013 at 01:28

We need a 3rd company to come along and show them how it's done but that's too big a task.

Devrij · 19 Oct 2013 at 01:31

Imagine if mantle (if it stands up to scrutiny eventually) and this became the standard. What nirvana would that be? Alas, it will never be.

Devrij · 19 Oct 2013 at 01:33

Suarez7 said:
We need a 3rd company to come along and show them how it's done but that's too big a task.

Yeah, it's way to late in the game for a new manufacturer to get involved in this market. We've as much chance of nvidia and and collaborating!

Gregster · 19 Oct 2013 at 01:33

Devrij said:
Imagine if mantle (if it stands up to scrutiny eventually) and this became the standard. What nirvana would that be? Alas, it will never be.

The Legend Kurt Kobane is more the way it will go

Just putting a joke in there that I could think of at this late hour and in no way do I feel Mantle will go like Kurt though.

Suarez7 · 19 Oct 2013 at 01:34

People would have to finally accept proprietary technologies are here to stay. Well I've already accepted it. They can be huge selling points for both and at the end of the day money is power.