nVidia GT300 - GeForce GTX 380 yields are sub-30%

[Rroff]

A gx2 version of mobile parts like they did generations ago would still have only the raw sp power of an original 260gtx, just with dx10.1(which shouldn't be undervalued) but will be expensive, a dual core card and a total waste of cash.

They wouldn't go with the same spec as the mobile part, bus and SPs would have to be ramped up - but then they would run into the same issues as with GT300 with power leakage, yeilds, etc...

So looks like nVidia have backed themselves into a nasty corner...

TBH tho for atleast the next 6 months and probably 12 month there doesn't look like being any game releases that use DX10.1 or 11 - so they'd be better off in the short term concentrating on kicking out as many 55nm + high SP dual GPU cards as they can as cheaply as they can until they get to grips with the GT300.

 

[ghst]

ATi's strategy is really paying off for them, Nvidia need to rethink a bit to remain competitive.

despite running with the green team for the last 5 years, i've gotta ask this question.

what exactly is nvidia's current strategy?

 

[Perfect_Chaos]

Even as of now there isn't much worth upgrading for past a 8800 bar for a handful of titles that still wont run full speed even on newer cards, i am waiting for doom 4 or some other worthy game to come along.

 

[JediFragger]

what exactly is nvidia's current strategy?

I don't think even nVidia know that

 

[jigger]

despite running with the green team for the last 5 years, i've gotta ask this question.

what exactly is nvidia's current strategy?

Push something out the door and let the marketing people worry about selling it

 

[queamin]

I think nvidia's marketing is least of their worry's, to be honest they done well on the renaming of their gpu's and they sold well.
I might not agree,but that side of nvidia is a lot better than ati's.

 

[bfar]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but 20% isn't all that bad for a 1st spin. It's not great but it's no disaster.

 

[jigger]

I think nvidia's marketing is least of their worry's, to be honest they done well on the renaming of their gpu's and they sold well.
I might not agree,but that side of nvidia is a lot better than ati's.

Yep, its a dam shame they relayed on spin to sell cards.

I think they should drop the BS (Roy Orbison specs ^> are my current fave ) and concentrate on getting the best cards they can out of the door.

 

[yashiro]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but 20% isn't all that bad for a 1st spin. It's not great but it's no disaster.

It is poor.

 

[Dauthi]

.what exactly is nvidia's current strategy?

They don't konw yet there still renaming it.

 

[Strife212]

I don't see the nVidia hate, 8800 revolutionized the graphics scene totally and they've still got the big hitter cards.

 

[Tute]

Stating the truth is "nVidia hate"?

Are you going to try and tell me that they didn't make an absolute ****-up with the pricing of the GT200 series and ended up losing a lot of money on them?

So what's their answer?

A BIGGER chip with LOWER yields.

It's like me shoving a fork in a plug, getting a shock, and rather than not doing it again, going off to find a substation to try it in.

 

[ac1d1ty]

Thankfully I have no moral allegiances to any party, so bring it on

 

[Dauthi]

I don't h8 nvidia i just h8 there CURRENT tactics of playing us for fools look at the pricing of the 200 series b4 and after the 4800's. There constant rebranding and pretending its the latest and greatest to decevie first time buyers and people like them. They even conviced the world that dx 10.1 offered nothing yet in this coming september some 2 years after ATI they releaseing their first dx 10.1 desktop cards.

no one can deny the 8800 wasn't a huge leap forward but it doesn't mean the worls should stop turning.

 

[ac1d1ty]

I don't see the nVidia hate, 8800 revolutionized the graphics scene totally and they've still got the big hitter cards.

This.


They were revolutionary.

My GTX has lasted me since 06

 

[jigger]

Only because Nvidia went a milking spree for two years

 

[ebilcake]

Only because Nvidia went a milking spree for two years

Theres a pretty big difference in performance between the 8800GTX and a GTX280 you know, as for the mid range cards well thats normal for last years tech to to be used in mid range cards the year after, theres no point completely re-designing a new GPU when last years with some minor changes can do the job just fine.

 

[jigger]

You mean the mid range that was priced as the new high, low and middle end but was the same old card over and over and is now the midrange.

8800gtx> 8800gt> 8800gts> 9800gtx> 9800gtx+> gts250. One of them

 

[the_jetsetwilly]

sod the yield, whats the performance stats like?

 

[Rroff]

8800GTX is a different card (G80) the G92 (8800GT, etc.) are a newer revision and hence fair game...

8800GT while same die as the G92 8800GTS is a different card as well (less SPs)...

So really it went 8800GTS (G92)->9800GTS->9800GTX+->GTS250. But strictly the GTX+ is a new smaller core revision too - its only the renaming the 9800GTX+ to the GTS250 that I have big issues with as the real 200 series cards have several benefits over the G9x cards especially in quality and color processing.

While theres quite a gap performance wise between a 285GTX and an 8800GTX now adays - the 8800GTX is still a pretty decent card and can still hang with its bigger brother at lower resolutions/less FSAA - people who bought the 8800GTX originally even tho they paid quite a bit for it got a pretty decent bargin really - prolly the longest useful lifespan of any card to date.