** NVIDIA GTX 560Ti "448 Edition" NOW AVAILABLE! **

MSI have every right to flaunt their currently superior cooling and build quality in graphics cards.

Maybe this is the only way that other companies will take notice and improve their products.

I wont be able to put anything worse in quality than a twinfrozr card or two in my PC again, and yes everything else including stuff from gigabyte and asus is worse.

MSI are also working hard on the greatest overclocking and video capture tool available. Ive owned Asus cards before that came with some kind of 'gamer OSD' overclocking and video capture tool which didnt even work with asus's own cards, nor could I find any way of recording gameplay as it advertised.

Seriously, if you dont yet realize how far ahead of the competition MSIs graphics hardware AND software currently is, you must have been living under a rock for the last year or two.

No I dont work for MSI, I simply own their cards and cant give their quality enough praise, nor ever go back to buying gigabyte, asus, or sapphire cards again.

Another thing worth noting - when Asus make a card of similar quality, they put it in their ROG range and charge a fortune for it. MSI dont, they still charge the same amount as a standard card for a blatantly superior graphics card.

A decent Intel CPU + Asus ROG series mobo + MSI twinfrozr graphics card = PURE EPIC SAUCE POURED OVER MY LEET CHOPS!
 
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I had the following issues:

- Gigabyte 4870 Xfire - they used moderately sized silent Zalman coolers. Top card was exceeding 120 degrees and died during a game of Street Fighter 4. Also their cards are as ugly as a sin.

- Sapphire 5770 reference designs - the copper bases of each cooler were heavilly scratched with large cuts and abrasions. At this point Sapphire used to state -

'Overclocking is the biggest reason for Sapphire cards being RMAd. We do not support nor cover overclocking, and discussion of it is banned on our forums'.

No you daft numpties, your build quality was pure SUCKAGE!

Also the cards I bought were reviewed and advertised as having dirt 2. Mine had no dirt 2 coupons.

Completely overrated graphics card company and terrible marketting.

- Asus Gamer software - never worked with anything. Tend to overpriced at least on launch, and with their ROG branded stuff which is on par with MSI. Voltage tweak was nice, but still needed MSIs software to work because Asus's software was pathetic and didnt work.

In fact my Zerotherm cooled Club 3D 3850s and Powercolor 4850s were better than all of the above.

After having had the pleasure of using MSI Cyclone GTX 460s, and TF2 560 tis, Im not going back to anything else until other companies step up their game.
 
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The Asus software is demonstrably worse than MSI but as far as build quality and design go there is not much between the two. For the card I was after (GTX 570) the Asus was superior (imo) but for other models the MSI version will be superior.
 
Yea I dont think there is a twinfrozr 570, just a reference design from MSI.

Its only the custom designs that are better, or in the case of Palit and Zotac, worse.
 
rolypolyman said:
Yes there is mate, if you look here:D
Click to expand...

Whoops :p

I only ever noticed the reference MSI GTX 570 because it was always on offer, I never really look at them as I'm not a G110 fan.

The Asus Direct Cu IIs need 3 slots to do what MSI can manage with two.

From an aesthetic viewpoint though, if buying GTX 570 or 580, I would have to have the Gainward Phantoms. I can fit two triple slot cards on my motherboard so thats not an issue, though it would block ever being to upgrade to tri SLI.

I think that one selling point of the 560 ti 448 could be that it is the lowest Nvidia model with tri SLI support, but it still really needs to be <£200 for the reference designs at least.
 
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As far as the Twin FrozR III is concerned (on my R6870 Hawk), it is the quietest, coolest-running GPU I have ever owned (except for a 5450 passive!), and gives amazing performance for a sub-£150 card, particularly when overclocked.

The only way to improve the cooling would be to add a water block. There may be many great custom cards around, but MSI really have the edge on cooling, keeping powerful GPUs running at sensible temps/noise levels. (NB I'm not a fanboy, all my mobos are Gigabyte - although that could change if they don't sort out UEFI).

Back on-topic : This looks like a good card for £227, given near-570 performance and tri-SLI. And a reference card for under £200 could be a real 6950-killer (until 7xxx's arrive).


Totally off-topic : What's happening with the MSI 6870 Hawk? OcUK have stopped stocking it, as have several other etailers :confused:. Many places are charging £200+ :eek: (I paid £130 two months ago). Strange.
 
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