Nvidia releasing GTX560SE

CAT-THE-FIFTH · 16 Feb 2012 at 17:18

This is the 6th version of the GTX560:

http://vr-zone.com/articles/nvidia-preparing-geforce-gtx-560-se/14908.html

Harlequin · 16 Feb 2012 at 17:20

looks scarily like a gtx 550ti.....

KNiVES · 16 Feb 2012 at 17:20

It's their big money spinner so I'm not surprised.

ALXAndy · 16 Feb 2012 at 17:25

Hmm. What they need to do is release a card that beats crap out of the 7770 for less money.

CAT-THE-FIFTH · 16 Feb 2012 at 17:27

Seems a strange move, especially with the GK104 being released next month, supposedly at £250 which is meant to be quicker than an HD7970. You would think that the previous generation cards would be getting massive price cuts soon.

Gregster · 16 Feb 2012 at 17:29

Milking the last of the 40nm maybe?

Ghøst · 16 Feb 2012 at 17:31

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Related article said:
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GTX 560 SE will offer similar performance to
GTX 555 OEM and is squarely aimed at
AMD's latest Radeon HD 7770. While the
aging GF114 is never going to match the
performance/watt ratio offered by AMD's
latest 28nm GPUs, the GTX 560 SE will offer
excellent performance/price value if priced
around the $150 mark - much like the GTX
460 SE did towards the end of GF104's
relatively short life cycle.

iB CoMpL3XiTy · 16 Feb 2012 at 17:31

Getting rid of old chips whilst trying to slow HD7770 sales makes sense, Maybe price war! (I'm optimistic)

CAT-THE-FIFTH · 16 Feb 2012 at 17:31

It will take at least another month or two for the GTX560SE to hit retail though. Supposedly the GK104 will be out by then and there is also the GK106 beneath it. With the rumoured £250 pricing for the top version of the 2 SKUs,what happens to the GTX550TI, GTX560,GTX560TI,GTX570 and GTX580 pricing??

Harlequin · 16 Feb 2012 at 17:34

GTX 560 going EOL?

CAT-THE-FIFTH · 16 Feb 2012 at 17:36

How is Nvidia going to price this though?? There is going to be a whole lot of price compression if the GK104 is only £250 and obliterates a GTX580. The exisiting SKUs will be pushed quite close together.

Ghøst · 16 Feb 2012 at 17:37

CAT-THE-FIFTH said:
It will take at least another month or two for the GTX560SE to hit retail though. Supposedly the GK104 will be out by then and there is also the GK106 beneath it. With the rumoured £250 pricing for the top version of the 2 SKUs,what happens to the GTX550TI, GTX560,GTX560TI,GTX570 and GTX580 pricing??

Where are you getting £250 from and for what exactly?

CAT-THE-FIFTH · 16 Feb 2012 at 17:39

Ghøst said:
Where are you getting £250 from and for what exactly?

The rumour is the top end GK104 SKU would be $299 for the reference cards and be much faster than a GTX580 overall. That would be around £230 including 20% VAT,so around £250 in the UK at launch would be about right. There is also a second cheaper GK104 salvage part too.

Ghøst · 16 Feb 2012 at 17:44

CAT-THE-FIFTH said:
The rumour is the top end GK104 SKU would $299 for the reference cards and much faster than a GTX580 overall.

The first 'rumour' I seen said $349 - $399 and no performance vs the 580 was mentioned.

The last 'rumour' I heard was it was going to be ridiculously expensive and again no performance comparison was mentioned.

So presumably there's absolutely no basis for this $249 rumour whatsoever?

Harlequin · 16 Feb 2012 at 17:47

the GTX 580 is $474, today , on newegg - nv will not release a card at $349 which ` kills` the GTX 580 in performance.

Gregster · 16 Feb 2012 at 17:52

Whilst I would love the next gen of GK104 cards to be £250 I don't think they will be but I am begging someone to prove me wrong.

porkmince · 16 Feb 2012 at 17:55

cant see em being any cheaper than £350 - this is rip off britain remember

CAT-THE-FIFTH · 16 Feb 2012 at 18:00

Ghøst said:
The first 'rumour' I seen said $349 - $399 and no performance vs the 580 was mentioned.

The last 'rumour' I heard was it was going to be ridiculously expensive and again no performance comparison was mentioned.

So presumably there's absolutely no basis for this $249 rumour whatsoever?

I never said $249,I said £250. SA said the AIB partners mentioned a $299 price point excluding tax(roughly £230 with VAT),so going by the £20 to £30 added by retailers when the HD7970 was launched, the £250 point seems about right. They also mentioned that due to PhysX it would be faster than an HD7970 in many games, being somewhat lower in non supported games according to benchmarks they saw. However,the GTX570 is that price so surely,the GK104 cannot be slower in non-optimised games or will it?? :confused:

They also mentioned there would be two SKUs at launch.

Harlequin said:
the GTX 580 is $474, today , on newegg - nv will not release a card at $349 which ` kills` the GTX 580 in performance.

Right,so will they be hitting price parity with the previous cards?? Surely,the GK104 if launching at £250(or thereabouts) should be at least faster than a GTX570?? IIRC,the cheapest GTX570 cards at launch were around £280.

The GTX580 is only 10% faster than a GTX570:

http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/ASUS/GeForce_GTX_570/27.html

So even a 15% to 20% speedup over the GTX570 would make it faster than a GTX580:

http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/ASUS/GeForce_GTX_570/27.html

I dunno - lots of forums are touting it as an HD7970 killer at a sub £300 price point. Are they being too optimistic??

Ghøst · 16 Feb 2012 at 18:01

That Tiny Tom guy from Overclockers3D said on his new GTX-570 review yesterday he's signed the NDA for the new Kepler but the RRP is going to be insane.

Borsch · 16 Feb 2012 at 18:02

What a strange release, what can it possibly accomplish? A dozen or so cards like sales worldwide?