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I'm guessing or maybe clutching at straws here but the 3080 20Gb version or the 3090 may the best option for VR. My 1080 doesn't quite cut it on Elite Dangerous using VR, well it does yes, but when you play on a monitor and you get all that eyecandy goodness and then go into VR and its not that sharp then the extra vram (i'm bloody well hoping) would help to ramp up the detail somewhat.

Obviously if anyone can correct me on this then go ahead.

I'm sure your aware of it - but in case not - https://forums.frontier.co.uk/forums/elite-dangerous-virtual-reality/
Morbad and Old Duck on the forums there have some excellent advice on graphics in general - Morbad's beyond Ultra settings are a must for me even in 2d.
I'm using a 2070 (non super) paired with a Ryzen 3700x and 32 gb ram with Oculus Rift S in VR and an EdTracker when in 2d on an Asus XG32V (2560x1440) and I have everything maxed whether in VR or not. All look sharp and I seldom drop below 100fps, a 1080 with similar cpu etc should be similar if not slightly better.
 
Hello, i have an order for a strix 3080, wondering if i can change or edit the delivery address? i edited it on my account page soon after the order, but have just received my order confirmation that still has the old address on it.
 
Hello, i have an order for a strix 3080, wondering if i can change or edit the delivery address? i edited it on my account page soon after the order, but have just received my order confirmation that still has the old address on it.

I messed up my delivery address too, sent in a webnote and they sorted it out for me... should be able to help you out as well.
 
Hello, i have an order for a strix 3080, wondering if i can change or edit the delivery address? i edited it on my account page soon after the order, but have just received my order confirmation that still has the old address on it.

Post in the private customer service forum here with your order number etc and they'll change it for you

https://www.overclockers.co.uk/forums/community/order-queries.118/

hi just wondering if you still have the zotac trinity 3080 in stock?

Yep, they got absolutely loads sat waiting for you. That's why the forum and the whole globe is inundated asking where the GPUs are at...

Or you're going to the back of the queue, with the many other tens of thousands of customers waiting for their cards already ordered 4 days ago! ;)
 
Since the 20GB version got mentioned I've been looking around a bit and been seeing quite a back and forth between folks saying 10GB is fine, and others saying some games require 8GB atm (that's actually using, not just allotted) and so if you're not the type to upgrade often then you should wait for the 20GB ones as in the years to come you may need more than 10 and so then the performance would go to hell, or you'd have to play on low textures (like there was tweets from ID's lead tech engine guy saying 8GB will become the absolute minimum you'll need soon, and I pay a bit more attention to that kind of source)... but others saying that only few people will be over 10GB so games probably won't cater to that much so it'll be fine (or can use DLSS to avoid the issue if it's an option and maybe RTX I/O will be available in games to fill the cache faster by the time 10GB isn't enough)... there was threads on here about it too...

But, am I wrong in thinking that's just if you're gaming at 4K? So say you wanted to play at 3440x1440 @144Hz ... that's about 60% of the pixels of 4K, right ... so the 10GB vs 20GB concerns are much less, as you'd be using less VRAM for textures?... or am I totally missing something... the more I read all those back and forth arguments the more my brain got fried well and I didn't nearly make it through all 46 pages of it.

A 3080 I thought might already be overkill for that but I saw some comments saying a 3070 might not cut it as it is more than 1440p especially if you wanted high frame rates (though I thought that was more of a CPU thing), maybe a 16GB 3070(super or whatever) would be a better buy... I wonder when the chunkier ones would be out and how much more they'll cost, I guess maybe nVidia is waiting to see what AMD does... still need benchmarks for the regular 3070 when it's out so I'm getting quite a bit ahead of myself.

I have had my eye on the VRAM usage in the various benchmark reviews. For 8K gaming I would say you need more than 10Gb, this seemed to be the performance limit for a few games. For 4k 10Gb seemed fine, maybe one game was a bit hungry and need to drop AA I think. For 3440x1440 it looks good. I would check out the games you really want to play and see if they are Vram Hogs or not, if they are then maybe go for more than 10Gb.

There is also DLSS 2 to consider, which seems to reduce VRAM usage. Check out this review of 8k, where they show VRAM at 8K (over 10Gb.. like 18Gb at times!) and then it drops with DLSS 2 (assuming the games you want support it). https://www.tweaktown.com/articles/....html#Final-Thoughts-of-Death-Stranding-at-8K
 
@Nabeshogun CPU is less important the higher the resolution, which is why most reviews show similar figures at 1080P for most top end cards, at 1080p, an Intel with higher clock is going to perform better than AMD evens out more on 1440p

Even at high framerates? I'm not arguing, I just read some stuff about if you're trying for stuff like 144Hz then that somehow can then end up being a CPU problem.

I would check out the games you really want to play and see if they are Vram Hogs or not

There is also DLSS 2 to consider

I think my concern is less the games that are out now, but more so games in the future ... I upgrade once in a blue moon - which is why I'm very out of the know, I generally try not to let my mind wander down this path too much, haha ... I'm on 9 year old tech atm, and shouldn't even be building a rig now, just sometimes you hit your limit of being 100% responsible all the time and want to live a little... so I imagine whatever I'll put together will have to last me 5+ years unless my life situation changes a great deal and I can't see that happening with all the current craziness...

Like that article you linked says, DLSS seems like magic, and that's something I'm super interested in, also how RTXI/O might help things when that makes its way into games in a couple years ...

I don't have much hope for AMDs offerings unless they somehow too have those extra kinda stuff going on, but hopefully it'll light a fire under nVidia... I'm probably overthinking things and should wait to see if they bring out the supers soon and there's benchmarks but I reckon the choice will come down between a 16GB 3070s or a 10GB 3080... it's just not knowing what'll serve me best in the future ... Like I said the tweet I saw from Billy Khan (Lead Engine Programmer at id Software) that people were linking to say 10 won't cut it:

8Gib will be the minimum bar for VRAM very soon. 6Gib is not enough. If you are oversubscribed on VRAM, many allocations fall back to system memory which incurs massive performance penalties. Running other software while gaming also reduces your available VRAM.

Even at resolutions below 4K, higher VRAM is the way to go. 8Gib will be the low end in short order.

Makes me sweaty about a 10GB card, as if 8 will be the minimum soon, then 10 prob won't cut it in a couple years... and I'd imagine devs making the games know this stuff better than most.
 
I'm sure your aware of it - but in case not - https://forums.frontier.co.uk/forums/elite-dangerous-virtual-reality/
Morbad and Old Duck on the forums there have some excellent advice on graphics in general - Morbad's beyond Ultra settings are a must for me even in 2d.
I'm using a 2070 (non super) paired with a Ryzen 3700x and 32 gb ram with Oculus Rift S in VR and an EdTracker when in 2d on an Asus XG32V (2560x1440) and I have everything maxed whether in VR or not. All look sharp and I seldom drop below 100fps, a 1080 with similar cpu etc should be similar if not slightly better.

Tried most of them methods (I think), but the framerate went all the way down, ASW kicking in? which dropped me to lower than 30fps no matter what I tried. Obviously everything has been updated as I haven't visited that section for ages now so I better back back to reading it all...and oh my how its grown (she said).

Cheers.

Edit. In 2d everything is maxed out the limits, super sampling set to x2.0, config files to increase the rendering quality of planets and the star field. FPS limited to 120 and it doesn't drop below that at all.
 
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RE Waiting for The 20GB 3080's, 3090 Benchmarks leaked 10% over 3080 in time spy 20% in blender. worth shelling out more than double for 10% performance uplift not bloody likely. Odds on a 20GB 3080 won't perform vastly better than the 10GB variants. GDDR6x aint cheap, my 650 quid Asus Tuf (when it finally ships) is looking better value by the day.
 
RE Waiting for The 20GB 3080's, 3090 Benchmarks leaked 10% over 3080 in time spy 20% in blender. worth shelling out more than double for 10% performance uplift not bloody likely. Odds on a 20GB 3080 won't perform vastly better than the 10GB variants. GDDR6x aint cheap, my 650 quid Asus Tuf (when it finally ships) is looking better value by the day.

Have a feeling it'll do better. Drivers for review cards werent full release at the time along with no one will have drivers for 3090 .

Workstation assessments really show the power of Amp better then gaming easily

https://www.pugetsystems.com/labs/a...g---NVIDIA-GeForce-RTX-3080-Performance-1874/
 
Have a feeling it'll do better. Drivers for review cards werent full release at the time along with no one will have drivers for 3090 .

Workstation assessments really show the power of Amp better then gaming easily

https://www.pugetsystems.com/labs/a...g---NVIDIA-GeForce-RTX-3080-Performance-1874/

I am going to go out on a limb and say the majority of people buying 3090s will be buying them for gaming or just because its the fastest even if by 10% for gaming.
 
I am going to go out on a limb and say the majority of people buying 3090s will be buying them for gaming or just because its the fastest even if by 10% for gaming.

you'll be surprised, lot of companies cant afford to run Quadro versions of the card at almost triple the costs etc . Specially with downturn .

but the above was just to highlight the potential power of the new cards without being held back by poor coding/porting etc
 
With the 3090 effectively replacing the titan, does the fact it supposedly doesn't outperform the 3080 really have any relevance?
The target market is likely those doing heavy rendering, parallel programming, etc. so it doesn't really apply that it won't run hello kitty island adventure in 4k any better.

I saw there are some blender benchmarks, but realistically there needs to be a lot of benchmarking done before the pitchforks are raised.. Plus, those could be falsified to create even more demand on the 3080, say to drive prices of an already high demand card even higher...
 
With the 3090 effectively replacing the titan, does the fact it supposedly doesn't outperform the 3080 really have any relevance?
The target market is likely those doing heavy rendering, parallel programming, etc. so it doesn't really apply that it won't run hello kitty island adventure in 4k any better.

I saw there are some blender benchmarks, but realistically there needs to be a lot of benchmarking done before the pitchforks are raised.. Plus, those could be falsified to create even more demand on the 3080, say to drive prices of an already high demand card even higher...

Exactly this. 3090 is not a gaming card. Its performance will be measured by how it performs in memory intensive compute tasks, rather than gaming. For those people, I expect it's a huge upgrade over the 10GB 3080.
 
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