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Andromeda1983 · 26 Sep 2020 at 14:11

Hi all,

Recently there has been some discussion about the EVGA GeForce RTX 3080 series. During our mass production QC testing we discovered a full 6 POSCAPs solution cannot pass the real world applications testing. It took almost a week of R&D effort to find the cause and reduce the POSCAPs to 4 and add 20 MLCC caps prior to shipping production boards, this is why the EVGA GeForce RTX 3080 FTW3 series was delayed at launch. There were no 6 POSCAP production EVGA GeForce RTX 3080 FTW3 boards shipped.

But, due to the time crunch, some of the reviewers were sent a pre-production version with 6 POSCAP’s, we are working with those reviewers directly to replace their boards with production versions.
EVGA GeForce RTX 3080 XC3 series with 5 POSCAPs + 10 MLCC solution is matched with the XC3 spec without issues.

Thanks
EVGA

Seems there is a issue with some of the cards and the power delivery thats causing the reported crashes. Will easily be fixed with bios updates (can be fixed by slightly downclocking) for the affected cards and fixed in future revisions of other AIB's cards that may have made it into the wild

N4_Ninja · 26 Sep 2020 at 16:06

Could it be the case that GPU manufactures want to supply the consumers that quickly that they will indeed send and supply them with pre-production boards...!

Andromeda1983 · 26 Sep 2020 at 18:35

Nah it just seems some AIB's cheaped out on some of their boards caps and its causing interference at high clocks (2000mhz) which is why some of the more premium boards are not having the issue because they use better components

DigitalTwisted · 26 Sep 2020 at 18:37

I've seen reports that the TUF boards are doing it as well and they have the 6x MLCC setup. Could be nonsense but folk have definitely reported the TUF cards doing it as well, so it may be a mixture of things. It could be that those reporting issues with the TUF's have PSU issues, as MSI's press statement mentioned PSU's as a potential cause as well.

Andromeda1983 · 26 Sep 2020 at 18:45

Nah EVGA admitted it was the caps issue, the others are just keeping quiet. Thing is, its not the AIB's fault because every PCB design has to be approved by Nvidia or they are not allowed to sell them so the problem lies with Nvidia

DigitalTwisted · 26 Sep 2020 at 18:50

That's what I'm saying though, I don't think it's just one issue out there leading to these reports. The crashing issues are being reported by TUF users with the 6x MLCC setup as well. The speculation is though that the caps are causing the issue on the cheaper made cards and it might be PSU's causing issues with the higher spec cards. So the caps issue is widespread the PSU issue less though and it's all getting rolled into one. After all if it was just the caps, then the TUF cards shouldn't be getting any of the crashing issues.

Andromeda1983 · 26 Sep 2020 at 18:55

Expect bios updates for the affected cards

JediFragger · 26 Sep 2020 at 18:58

Andromeda1983 said:
Expect bios updates for the affected cards

De-clocking ahoy?

DigitalTwisted · 26 Sep 2020 at 18:59

Yeah no doubt. I mean ultimately it's not as big of an issue as it seems in the grand scheme. It's crap for overclockers but even with a vbios update to clock them down a little, folk will still get there advertised boost speeds, but yeah kind of takes the fun out of it in that regard.

Andromeda1983 · 26 Sep 2020 at 19:26

Better a very slight downlock than a worthless card

meh · 26 Sep 2020 at 21:01

DigitalTwisted said:
I've seen reports that the TUF boards are doing it as well and they have the 6x MLCC setup. Could be nonsense but folk have definitely reported the TUF cards doing it as well, so it may be a mixture of things. It could be that those reporting issues with the TUF's have PSU issues, as MSI's press statement mentioned PSU's as a potential cause as well.

I looked at the OcUK pics on the link for the Tuf, in one of the pics it shows it uses the 6 POSCAP setup, in fact it shows all variations of ASUS cards use it, but after looking on Guru3d earlier the product pics shows it uses the full 6 MLCC setup. My finger is on the trigger for the Tuf now, but its just the issue of how long it will take to be delivered..the wait would drive me insane.

DigitalTwisted · 27 Sep 2020 at 00:34

meh said:
I looked at the OcUK pics on the link for the Tuf, in one of the pics it shows it uses the 6 POSCAP setup, in fact it shows all variations of ASUS cards use it, but after looking on Guru3d earlier the product pics shows it uses the full 6 MLCC setup. My finger is on the trigger for the Tuf now, but its just the issue of how long it will take to be delivered..the wait would drive me insane.

I think ASUS confirmed similar to EVGA that this was caught before hand unless the different versions have different setups as one of the tech tubers did a breakdown of one of the TUF cards and it had the MLCC setup I'm sure. Maybe I'm confusing it with something else, but I'm pretty sure it was one of the TUF's.

meh · 27 Sep 2020 at 09:35

DigitalTwisted said:
I think ASUS confirmed similar to EVGA that this was caught before hand unless the different versions have different setups as one of the tech tubers did a breakdown of one of the TUF cards and it had the MLCC setup I'm sure. Maybe I'm confusing it with something else, but I'm pretty sure it was one of the TUF's.

Yup, 6 MLCC setup, the EVGA xc3 has 1, Founders has 2.

SurfXombie · 27 Sep 2020 at 09:40

DigitalTwisted said:
I think ASUS confirmed similar to EVGA that this was caught before hand unless the different versions have different setups as one of the tech tubers did a breakdown of one of the TUF cards and it had the MLCC setup I'm sure. Maybe I'm confusing it with something else, but I'm pretty sure it was one of the TUF's.

Tech Yes (youtube) did a compare between the Tuf OC they had as a review sample and a retail Tuf non-OC from a friend. They both had the 6 MLCC setup and the summary was they appeared identical. https://youtu.be/vJVXWO-o3SM

meh · 27 Sep 2020 at 10:04

SurfXombie said:
Tech Yes (youtube) did a compare between the Tuf OC they had as a review sample and a retail Tuf non-OC from a friend. They both had the 6 MLCC setup and the summary was they appeared identical. https://youtu.be/vJVXWO-o3SM

I literally watched that video just before the recap on JayzTwoCents. I kept cringing every time I saw him stroking the MLCCs.

SurfXombie · 27 Sep 2020 at 10:31

meh said:
I literally watched that video just before the recap on JayzTwoCents. I kept cringing every time I saw him stroking the MLCCs.

Me too, I'm probably over careful with such things myself. But then they are open on the back of the card.

Saul Farrell · 27 Sep 2020 at 11:05

meh said:
Yup, 6 MLCC setup, the EVGA xc3 has 1, Founders has 2.

Wait so the founders edition is suffering from the POSCAP issue or no?

WarpedMind · 27 Sep 2020 at 12:01

The SPCAPS crash to desktop issue affects many of the 3080 AIB brands, including the Founders I've read.

I'm taking it all with a pinch of salt around the issue personally, as could also be entirely drivers related and not hardware at all.

mrozik · 27 Sep 2020 at 14:04

this is gonna be fun, 1st we wait months to get a product thats broken
then return it all XD

N4_Ninja · 27 Sep 2020 at 14:13

LMFAO

** NVIDIA RTX 30 SERIES (3090 / 3080 / 3070) NOW ONLINE AT OcUK **

NVIDIA RTX 30 SERIES (3090 / 3080 / 3070) NOW ONLINE AT OcUK