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zxh800 said:
Yea the VRAM is mega pricey. Funny you should say telephone numbers. Word on the street is the 20GB 3080 might be coming in at 999.
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That’s my problem, I really would like the 20Gb version, but when it says ‘starting’ at 999, after seeing what happened to the price of the 10Gb version rising from the initial price i can see the 20Gb averaging around the 1100-1200 pound mark and that’s just too rich for my blood, and my bank balance (as well as trying to convince the wife to allow me to spend that much)
 
What's the score with the "queue position updater" that Gibbo mentioned on the 21st of September? Did I miss it? Or has it not happened?
I get that it's subject to fluctuations as and when people cancel their order - but as we're promised a delivery on a 'first come, first served' basis, they must have that queue in place for each card - or they wouldn't be able to offer that. I want to know if I'm 350,231st in line - and if that's the case I'll take my money back and wait.
I do not understand why they can't tell us (albeit roughly) where we are in the queue for our chosen card.
 
Dicehunter said:
20GB cards are right around the corner, No way am I buying a 10GB card, Games are only going to get more demanding in the memory department going forward.
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10GB is plenty unless you're planning on playing 4K and keeping the card for years and years. The notion that 10GB isn't enough is completely wrong being spread by people who don't know the difference between memory being allocated and actually used.

turbot1984 said:
What was the point of the 10GB release I wonder? Is the VRAM mega pricey or something? If so 20 GB cards will be telephone numbers.
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To provide a lower priced card. The rumoured 3080 with 20GB VRAM will be closer in price to the 3090 then the 3080 (imo). Given that 10GB will be absolutely fine for 99% of users it's a better option (again, imo).
 
trawetSluaP said:
10GB is plenty unless you're planning on playing 4K and keeping the card for years and years. The notion that 10GB isn't enough is completely wrong being spread by people who don't know the difference between memory being allocated and actually used.



To provide a lower priced card. The rumoured 3080 with 20GB VRAM will be closer in price to the 3090 then the 3080 (imo). Given that 10GB will be absolutely fine for 99% of users it's a better option (again, imo).
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But look at the MS Flight Sim 2020 4K data... 10GB ain't enough at top quality, so its already a sub-optimal solution, ... or a cunning stunt by Bill Gates?
 
trawetSluaP said:
10GB is plenty unless you're planning on playing 4K and keeping the card for years and years. The notion that 10GB isn't enough is completely wrong being spread by people who don't know the difference between memory being allocated and actually used.
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I've seen a few examples that playing Half Life Alyx on an Index, And I do play on an Index as well as Ultrawide, At max settings with a 3090 and it showed VRAM closing in on 21GB used, Obviously a good chunk of that was allocation but I'd feel a bit safer with memory capacity a little higher than 10GB considering people like Tim Sweeney, I think it was him or another 1 of the big well known dev guys, Who said video memory is going to be quite crucial going forward more than ever and with textures getting bigger and bigger I'd rather have something and not need it than need it and not have it.

Billy Khan, Lead Engine Programmer at Id said -

Even at resolutions below 4K, higher VRAM is the way to go. 8GB will be the low end in short order.
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If 8GB is going to be considered low fairly soon then 10GB isn't going to be much better, In situations like this I like to pay attention to actual developers who have extremely indepth knowledge of how everything under the hood works compared to basically everyone on this forum, Myself included, Who most of the time can only make educated guesses based on random benchmarks done by other users of old games.
 
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Dicehunter said:
True but I won't be buying into this series or at least not the next wave or 2 of stock especially with 20GB cards and a potential 3080 Ti being released in a few months time.
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What makes you think they will be in Stock to order once they get released.....

Lots of GPU Enthusiasts out there..
 
turbot1984 said:
But look at the MS Flight Sim 2020 4K data... 10GB ain't enough at top quality, so its already a sub-optimal solution, ... or a cunning stunt by Bill Gates?
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You picked the only game that will use more than 10GB VRAM. Now name another, haha.

Dicehunter said:
I've seen a few examples that playing Half Life Alyx on an Index, And I do play on an Index as well as Ultrawide, At max settings with a 3090 and it showed VRAM closing in on 21GB used
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Are use using software to read this is it's not very active and won't define allocated/used. Will only display allocated. It's can't be using 21GB if you don't have it...
 
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trawetSluaP said:
You picked the only game that will use more than 10GB VRAM. Now name another, haha.



Are use using software to read this is it's not very active and won't define allocated/used. Will only display allocated. It's can't be using 21GB if you don't have it...
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Is 10GB of Vram enough for 4K gaming for the next 3 years? [JULY 2020 POLL]
  • Yes
    Votes: 35 35.0%
  • No
    Votes: 65 65.0%
  • Total voters

    100
 
turbot1984 said:
Is 10GB of Vram enough for 4K gaming for the next 3 years? [JULY 2020 POLL]
  • Yes
    Votes: 35 35.0%
  • No
    Votes: 65 65.0%
  • Total voters

    100
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Where was the poll? Who where the voters?

Like I said, the average user doesn't understand the difference between allocation and use.

Most will look at software readouts and take the displayed figure as gospel, not realising it's allocation and not the amount of memory being used.

I've played two games in the last five years that got near full use of VRAM; Resident Evil 2 Remake and Flight Sim 20. Two games.....and Resi was easily scalled back a little.
 
trawetSluaP said:
Where was the poll? Who where the voters?

Like I said, the average user doesn't understand the difference between allocation and use.

Most will look at software readouts and take the displayed figure as gospel, not realising it's allocation and not the amount of memory being used.

I've played two games in the last five years that got near full use of VRAM; Resident Evil 2 Remake and Flight Sim 20. Two games.....and Resi was easily scalled back a little.
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Anandtech, oh and it was Sept 3rd 2020, apologies.
 
turbot1984 said:
Anandtech, oh and it was Sept 3rd 2020, apologies.
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The voters where readers? Average Joe? That's my point.

It's a shame people feel the need to hold out as thay will ultimately spend more money on something they don't need but I guess for future proofing if you have the extra cash there's no harm in waiting for the larger VRAM cards. It's just not a requirement.
 
trawetSluaP said:
Where was the poll? Who where the voters?

Like I said, the average user doesn't understand the difference between allocation and use.

Most will look at software readouts and take the displayed figure as gospel, not realising it's allocation and not the amount of memory being used.

I've played two games in the last five years that got near full use of VRAM; Resident Evil 2 Remake and Flight Sim 20. Two games.....and Resi was easily scalled back a little.
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Would you buy an expensive car where you couldn't use 6th gear all the time, or 5th and 6th gears next year?
 
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