NVIDIA RTX 50 SERIES - (PRE)ORDER DISCUSSION **NO COMPETITOR HINTING**

[ICDP]

To be fair I used it myself legitimately. I bought a used Fury X and specifically asked if it had the pump whine and was told no. It was unbearable and I asked for a refund and the seller tried to refuse and it went to dispute.

But yes, also had it abused on an expensive kit returned as faulty or not as described. This saves the buyer even having to pay returns postage.

 

[mattp1986]

Effectively, you can. If you use an "auction site", buyers can return used/private sales items for any reason they want within 30 days and just claim it's "defective" in some way. The refund is automatic and no way really for a seller to dispute it.

As for retailers, it's also 30 days regardless of what hilarious terms that retailer states: https://www.gov.uk/accepting-returns-and-giving-refunds

That's crazy, had no idea that was a thing, looking to sell my 4090 system, once the 5090 arrives, will be very careful after reading this. Probably best to avoid eBay etc and try to sell through other marketplaces

 

[Mattcee2]

That's crazy, had no idea that was a thing, looking to sell my 4090 system, once the 5090 arrives, will be very careful after reading this. Probably best to avoid eBay etc and try to sell through other marketplaces

I'm also wondering were to sell my my 4090's and think CEX may be the best option?
OK, I won't get as much as ebay but its quick and hassle free with no comeback.
I'm surprised some of the bigger retailers don't do buybacks on these sort of cards as there's obv a huge demand for them.

 

[harmattan]

That's crazy, had no idea that was a thing, looking to sell my 4090 system, once the 5090 arrives, will be very careful after reading this. Probably best to avoid eBay etc and try to sell through other marketplaces

Yeah, the high re-sale prices you're seeing are tempting I'm sure, but no is NOT the time to be selling a 4090 -- super high risk. As stated, you're likely just lending it to some random and they're return it -- no one's actually buying a used 4090 for £1800+ now to keep it.

Best at this point would be to wait until 5090 comes back generally in stock. Resale prices will go down (which are in reality just "hold my money for a bit while I borrow your card" prices), but you'll be much more likely to have the buyer keep the card.

 

[Hostile_18]

It's a tough one. I sold 3 4090s on there no issues. I always do.my research on buyer first though, account history etc.

 

[Nitefly]

It's a tough one. I sold 3 4090s on there no issues. I always do.my research on buyer first though, account history etc.

Why the 4090 churn? Not happy with them? Just curious re: other models?

 

[Dave2150]

The popular auction site is not worth the stress and worry for me. I know people who have had things returned to them 5 months after the sale went through. The item doesn't have to be returned in the same condition and it doesn't even have to be the same item, they just need to make sure it weights roughly the same.

The popular auction site always take the side of the buyer, it's just not worth it for expensive items IMO.

As the auction site uses paypal - paypal offer 180 days refund (6 months) and will always take the side of the buyer.

 

[Dave2150]

I'm enjoying seeing all the 4090s now selling for £1800+, 50% of which will be returned to the seller over the next 30 days.

They can return the item up to 6 months after purchasing, the bay will always side with the buyer. They don't even have to return the same item

As the auction site uses paypal - paypal offer 180 days refund (6 months) and will always take the side of the buyer.

 

[chrisgough]

For the reasons above I sold my 4090 to CEX, this was a week before the 5090 reviews were out. eBay prices have risen since. I’m still happy with what I got as it was a large chunk towards my next card and I haven’t risked losing both the money and card this way! I sold my 1080, 2080 Ti and 3080 on eBay but I always sold on the cheaper side just to get rid and not wait too long.

 

[Dave2150]

I'm also wondering were to sell my my 4090's and think CEX may be the best option?
OK, I won't get as much as ebay but its quick and hassle free with no comeback.
I'm surprised some of the bigger retailers don't do buybacks on these sort of cards as there's obv a huge demand for them.

Members market prices tend to be higher than CEX, if you continue to post on these forums you'll gain access to that. It will take some time to build up a good reputation, though is worth it if you're into PC hardware etc for the long run.

 

[harmattan]

For the reasons above I sold my 4090 to CEX, this was a week before the 5090 reviews were out. eBay prices have risen since. I’m still happy with what I got as it was a large chunk towards my next card and I haven’t risked losing both the money and card this way! I sold my 1080, 2080 Ti and 3080 on eBay but I always sold on the cheaper side just to get rid and not wait too long.

You can sell successfully, you just need to time it right and make the price attractive enough for the buyer to hold on to the card. I sold my 4090 Strix back in late November for £1600, and a) buyer wouldn't have been able to return it as window had elapsed by 5-series launch, b) the price was reasonable enough for them to keep it. Those who don't time it right and try to make a buck by selling high often see the item come back to them.

I've never experienced anyone succeeding returning an item after 30 days -- that's out of terms, and you can simply turn it down as a seller. Even if the buyer tries a credit charge back you'll be covered as 30 days has elapsed. I did recently have someone attempt to return a CPU I sold two months after sale (coincidentally right around a CPU launch), but they got shut them down.

As for retailers doing buy backs, MC is very successful at this in the US. You get less money, but it's much lower risk as once the card is tested and re-purchased, the deal is done. I don't see this working in the UK, however, for multiple reasons.

 

[Dave2150]

What are the chances of a FE restock tomorrow do you reckon?

You and several thousand real people will be F5ing throughout the day in the hopes to snag a FE and then cancel their AIB +£500 model (at least until they're in stock and prices settle).

Oh and many bots abusing the API, which is probably the equivalent of millions of people F5'ing the store

 

[McCarthy]

If you’re in the UK just use Gumtree. As long as you don’t mind getting asked if you would swap for a PS5 and cash, you can fetch a better price than say CEX.

Can’t believe anyone still risks selling on bay, it massively favours the buyer and has done for years.

 

[jrodga2k5]

It's a tough one. I sold 3 4090s on there no issues. I always do.my research on buyer first though, account history etc.

I've not had an issue either with my sales recently, had one guy change his mind which was immediate upon receipt but an easy enough resale when returned. Usually putting it a fairly reasonable buy it now and waiting for confirmation of payment has worked well. No idea if peoples experiences are based on letting them go through the auction process or not.

 

[Jay-G25]

The popular auction site is not worth the stress and worry for me. I know people who have had things returned to them 5 months after the sale went through. The item doesn't have to be returned in the same condition and it doesn't even have to be the same item, they just need to make sure it weights roughly the same.

The popular auction site always take the side of the buyer, it's just not worth it for expensive items IMO.

As the auction site uses paypal - paypal offer 180 days refund (6 months) and will always take the side of the buyer.

30 calendar days from the day it been delivered, that's how long they buyer has to claim an issue with good bought from Ebay and as for PayPal as long as you provide them with signed proof of delivery then you will be covered normally. No idea how someone managed to return something through Ebay 5 months later , not something I've ever come across personally.

The popular auction site is not worth the stress and worry for me. I know people who have had things returned to them 5 months after the sale went through. The item doesn't have to be returned in the same condition and it doesn't even have to be the same item, they just need to make sure it weights roughly the same.

The popular auction site always take the side of the buyer, it's just not worth it for expensive items IMO.

As the auction site uses paypal - paypal offer 180 days refund (6 months) and will always take the side of the buyer.

30 calendar days from the day it been delivered, that's how long the buyer has to claim an issue with good bought from Ebay and as for PayPal as long as you provide them with signed proof of delivery then you will be covered normally. No idea how someone managed to return something through Ebay 5 months later , not something I've ever come across personally.

 

[redkrptonite]

The popular auction site is not worth the stress and worry for me. I know people who have had things returned to them 5 months after the sale went through. The item doesn't have to be returned in the same condition and it doesn't even have to be the same item, they just need to make sure it weights roughly the same.

The popular auction site always take the side of the buyer, it's just not worth it for expensive items IMO.

As the auction site uses paypal - paypal offer 180 days refund (6 months) and will always take the side of the buyer.

100% true. Had the same thing happen to me with an Xbox. Basically letting someone borrow it for several months before they then complain the fan was making a noise. Paypal took the buyers side and screwed me over. Never using PayPal for transactions again.

 

[Major774]

FB market I find works, but for collections only. I have sold a couple of PC parts this way.

Price it slightly lower than market value, genuine buyers will make the effort to collect it.

 

[John J Sheridan]

FB market I find works, but for collections only. I have sold a couple of PC parts this way.

Price it slightly lower than market value, genuine buyers will make the effort to collect it.

Yep - sold a tablet on there this morning to a guy - was my late mums so just wanted it gone. I usually check out the buyers profile on FB first though - if someone lives abroad they are not likely to be genuine !

 

[Dave2150]

30 calendar days from the day it been delivered, that's how long the buyer has to claim an issue with good bought from Ebay and as for PayPal as long as you provide them with signed proof of delivery then you will be covered normally. No idea how someone managed to return something through Ebay 5 months later , not something I've ever come across personally.

Problem is that the vast majority use paypal when buying things from that popular auction site. Using paypal, they can raise a dispute up to 180 days after the item was sold.

Paypal will always side with the buyer and will force you to pay for the buyer's return postage to you. Whether you get the same item you sold back, or in the same condition, is another story.

If you refuse, paypal can simply take the money from your bank and the buyer then doesn't even have to return it to you.

Plenty of examples on reddit if you search for "buyer requesting refund via paypal after 6 months)" etc.

 

[John J Sheridan]

In an old job I used to use that auction site for getting rid of old IT stuff but we got burned once by a scammer so we never used them again.