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One of my banks always declines on big card purchases so I have to do it twice. I've stopped using it for situations where time is of the essence. They never learn.
Mine went through a period of doing that for a couple of years, though thankfully they eventually cut it out. The irony is that the one time I've ever had an actual fraudulent transaction, they let it go right through unchecked.
 
Mine went through a period of doing that for a couple of years, though thankfully they eventually cut it out. The irony is that the one time I've ever had an actual fraudulent transaction, they let it go right through unchecked.
Well, it's been almost a decade of them doing it at this point so I don't think they'll stop, I don't think they manage to catch the fraud when I had it happen once before either. :cry: I used it back when the 3080fe launch happened I remember, and it declined on that. Fortunately this was back when digital river were still doing nvidia's cards, and they actually tried to charge again unlike most retailers, so I still got the card. Most places require you to put the order in again, and you're just screwed if that happens. I lost out on a 7950X3D on launch the other year because of it, though considering the price dropped when I did finally get one I was less mad about that by the end.
 
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One of my banks always declines on big card purchases so I have to do it twice. I've stopped using it for situations where time is of the essence. They never learn.
With some banks and cards you can put a vendor on a "trusted" list so that doesn't happen. I've done it on my Amex at least for a few sites since they always do a code check for purchases over £1k.
 
With some banks and cards you can put a vendor on a "trusted" list so that doesn't happen. I've done it on my Amex at least for a few sites since they always do a code check for purchases over £1k.
They've only added that recently, like within the last few months or so, unfortunately. Though I'm not sure it'll help, it's not the code that's the issue, they ask for a code and then just decline anyway thinking it's fraud. I've always assumed it's because I don't do that many big purchases, so they just get very antsy about them.

AMEX I've had a much more positive experience with admittedly.
 
So when’s the “stupidly high” stock turning up then?
My guess is real supply will start flowing next week and stock will stabilize by mid-late March. CNY ended two weeks ago, fabs are cranking out chips and cards, and most of the spazzes who are paying stupid prices now will either have a card or have moved on.
 
Just seen a 5080 has also been confirmed to have missing ROPs
So it's more widespread than Nvidia is letting on.
Wonder if we will see delays in shipments

Also 5070ti... and across multiple AIBs... and across many batches.

Worth noting the lower the chip, the more the impact. This is due to the fact that in all cases an entire array of 8 ROPs is not working (or missing altogether) -- the lower the ROP count, the more impact removing 8 has. So, while the performance impact to a 5090 is only -6%, for a 5070ti the performance hot is -11%.
 
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Mine went through a period of doing that for a couple of years, though thankfully they eventually cut it out. The irony is that the one time I've ever had an actual fraudulent transaction, they let it go right through unchecked.
The local car dealership tells me a guy pays 60k for a new car on his card no problem. Leaves the dealership and remembers he also needs some oil for his other car so goes back in and the bank ring to confirm it's him for the £25 purchase. Go figure.
 
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What are you fancying? I 'may' have just ordered it, showing on the CC but not in my orders, so maybe too late. No stress.

I’m already in a pre-order queue for an MSI Suprim (air cooled) on the basis that it’s supposedly the quietest of the bunch with average to good coil whine. Looks nice and ‘premium’ too.

Downsides are a potentially laborious RMA process, if you’re unlucky (apparently MSI are just about the worst for GPU RMAs) and a ‘premium card’ price tag.
 
I’m already in a pre-order queue for an MSI Suprim (air cooled) on the basis that it’s supposedly the quietest of the bunch with average to good coil whine. Looks nice and ‘premium’ too.

Downsides are a potentially laborious RMA process, if you’re unlucky (apparently MSI are just about the worst for GPU RMAs) and a ‘premium card’ price tag.
Nice one. Fancied the LC one actually but pre ordered a TUF as Im going to stick a water block on anyway for quiet running and coolness of visuals, haha. Doesnt look like i got a a TUF earlier...but they got my money, well CC. It will no doubt just refund.
 
Nice one. Fancied the LC one actually but pre ordered a TUF as Im going to stick a water block on anyway for quiet running and coolness of visuals, haha. Doesnt look like i got a a TUF earlier...but they got my money, well CC. It will no doubt just refund.
Same on the TUF card, look like their system cannot handle the traffic at all. Now waiting for cancel/refund email from them.
 
Just seen a 5080 has also been confirmed to have missing ROPs
So it's more widespread than Nvidia is letting on.
Wonder if we will see delays in shipments

I'm suspecting there is an issue with the actual chip rather than just a production problem. People need to keep an eye on the ROPS and other aspects of the card in case they disappear. What if some part of the chip is getting damaged while in use? Take a phone pic of the GPU-Z screen with the date and time showing.
 
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