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NVIDIA RTX 50 SERIES - Technical/General Discussion

ai and gaming chips are different, they dont bin ai chips for gaming, ai chips for example dont have rt cores but include a dedicated hi perf double precision pipeline, they need to voluntarily sacrifice fab capacity for gaming chips - but its not going to be an issue because we know that jensen is passionate about gaming money
 
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Joxeon said:
Yet all the company’s buying this stuff are not turning a profit on AI, even open AI which has been one of the more successful players are set to lose 5b this year and that could treble by to a 15b loss by 2026.
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every investment out there is not supposed to generate revenue, sometimes you have to invest in stuff just to remain competitive.. now since openai is an infra provider they have to definitely generate profits, so there must be something encouraging within the forecast horizon, confidential stuff not known to outsiders

but others like facebook, tesla, google - for them ai may or may not be a revenue generating investment
 
brostradamus said:
ai and gaming chips are different, they dont bin ai chips for gaming, ai chips for example dont have rt cores but include a dedicated hi perf double precision pipeline, they need to voluntarily sacrifice fab capacity for gaming chips - but its not going to be an issue because we know that jensen is passionate about gaming money
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Yes, but it's about fab space. They will prioritise fab space for the most profitable chips which are obviously the AI/Server/Data Centre ones. This leaves little to no space for the gaming chips to be manufactured and even the ones that are will be professional cards before they will be gaming cards.
 
Grim5 said:
That doesn't make any sense, AMD won the contract to build the PS6 SoC, not Nvidia, but good try, troll bait
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Yes, that's definitely the issue here. Not your outlandish claim with absolutely no evidence. Though let's face it. That is like 80% of your posts, well other than the outright lying ones.
 
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still faster than anything from the competition, pretty much something that looks possible, but then whats the incentive for 4080 users to upgrade -
maybe its fab capacity constraints not allowing nvidia to tap into demand, or maybe graphics cards will really be settling down to a 3 year cadence, time to cultivate another side-hobby
 
5080 is looking like a big disappointment if any of the rumours are true. I don't believe a word of MLID so I can only hope the prices are reasonable. Was kinda hoping for a Maxwell like generation with cheaper prices after the big price hikes this gen.
 
brostradamus said:
still faster than anything from the competition, pretty much something that looks possible, but then whats the incentive for 4080 users to upgrade -
maybe its fab capacity constraints not allowing nvidia to tap into demand, or maybe graphics cards will really be settling down to a 3 year cadence, time to cultivate another side-hobby
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The consensus is that they have to spend more if they want an upgrade which was the case with 3080 owners when moving to a 4080 or even a 4070ti, in fact this applied to pretty much all 30 series owners whatever the tier when moving to the 40 series.
 
but it doesnt really apply across the spectrum, some people really have this immovable psychological barrier as to what they would be willing to spend on a "toy"
assuming this segment has been saturated by 4080 buyers (which is a reasonable assumption) and if nvidia really wants to tap into the upgrade demand from this very segment then there seems to be nothing on the table
which means the 5080 is being positioned as an upgrade path for 3080 users, thats 1 full generation of demand left untapped by nvidia
maybe its fab capacity constraints at work, and the situation will only worsen unless a competing fab starts innovating big time
 
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brostradamus said:
still faster than anything from the competition, pretty much something that looks possible, but then whats the incentive for 4080 users to upgrade -
maybe its fab capacity constraints not allowing nvidia to tap into demand, or maybe graphics cards will really be settling down to a 3 year cadence, time to cultivate another side-hobby
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A 5080 can still be a good product if they slash its price tier from 1200 back to 700 where it should be.
 
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