NVIDIA RTX 50 SERIES - Technical/General Discussion

[dmfg]

The original charts clearly show gains over 30% and were later swapped out to the realistic ones in a bait and switch.

Oh I didn't even realise they swapped them - I remember seeing the marginal on the left most bar, but I think you're right because I only remember one like-for-like comparison on their initial graph

 

[Cooners]

Oh I didn't even realise they swapped them - I remember seeing the marginal on the left most bar, but I think you're right because I only remember one like-for-like comparison on their initial graph

I might be wrong but isn't one showing with MFG and one without which would explain the difference

 

[Sin_Chase]

I might be wrong but isn't one showing with MFG and one without which would explain the difference

Yes. It says so in the footnotes

 

[Rawr]

The original charts clearly show gains over 30% and were later swapped out to the realistic ones in a bait and switch.

To be fair, it does say DLSS. I'm not saying I agree with the tactic of coming up with a graph that makes the increase look more favourable than it is, but it's technically true and it's how they get away with it. It's not the first time Nvidia have done this silliness, it won't be the last either. It's not exclusive to Nvidia either, Intel, AMD etc they all do the bs graphs and tech youtubers constantly call them all out for it. Consequently I'm not massively convinced the in the know people are still falling for it, only the mass market who probably aren't the ones expressing disappointment over the 5080 either because they don't actually care enough.

I don't think it's any more deeper than it was just a disappointing improvement. It's hard for anyone with a 40 series card to be that excited by it. The price gouging going on because of lack of stock is just icing on the cake to cause people to have especially strong opinions. The 30 series came after the disappointing 20 series which also suffered from a small improvement and reliance on DLSS to sell when very few games actually had it. So when the ridiculous stock issues/price gouging hit the 30 series, it just didn't hit as hard. Not to mention everyone being stuck in doors makes for good reasoning of buying a GPU...

 

[mrk]

So how's the launch going

 

[dmfg]

To be fair, it does say DLSS. I'm not saying I agree with the tactic of coming up with a graph that makes the increase look more favourable than it is, but it's technically true and it's how they get away with it. It's not the first time Nvidia have done this silliness, it won't be the last either. It's not exclusive to Nvidia either, Intel, AMD etc they all do the bs graphs and tech youtubers constantly call them all out for it. Consequently I'm not massively convinced the in the know people are still falling for it, only the mass market who probably aren't the ones expressing disappointment over the 5080 either because they don't actually care enough.

I don't think it's any more deeper than it was just a disappointing improvement. It's hard for anyone with a 40 series card to be that excited by it. The price gouging going on because of lack of stock is just icing on the cake to cause people to have especially strong opinions. The 30 series came after the disappointing 20 series which also suffered from a small improvement and reliance on DLSS to sell when very few games actually had it. So when the ridiculous stock issues/price gouging hit the 30 series, it just didn't hit as hard. Not to mention everyone being stuck in doors makes for good reasoning of buying a GPU...

I don't know about you but I only looked at the left most bar when this came out, because that was the only one where both cards used the same settings, so the Far Cry 6 was what I was expecting as a best case scenario. Though it was an RT benchmark and probably one that was cherry picked to have the highest gains.

I think the current prices make the 5080 decision extremely easy - if I wanted this kind of performance for £1500, I would have bought a 4090 3 years ago. It wasn't for me back then and nothing has changed now

 

[Devvie]

There were 3 drops of the 5090 on launch day. I am on a discord channel where someone got a link for the first drop. From that link I auto refreshed the page every few seconds. They keep the page active with no add to basket button until the next drop tens of minutes later where it appears. Wouldn't add to basket that time, then reappeared once more tens of minutes later. Until the page started saying out of stock, then there is no more drops on that day.

Same pattern as FEs for 3000 and 4000 series.

Is this a discord dedicated for this kind of stuff? Where does one find such a channel if don't mind me asking? I tried to find something similar for the slightest chance to get a 5080 FE, but starting to give up

 

[Grim5]

 

[mrk]

"Simply as possible, nvidia is being a ****"

 

[bluesouljah]

"Simply as possible, nvidia is being a ****"

Obvs init?

 

[mrk]

Obvs init?