NVIDIA RTX 50 SERIES - Technical/General Discussion

[Glanza]

 

[Grim5]

There we go, first case of melted power cables with the 5090

That did not take long at all; so few GPUs in the wild and already cables are melting!

Hong Kong media PCM discovers melted cables and PSU failure after testing RTX 5090D/5080 - VideoCardz.com

Hopefully, the first and last instance of melted cables PCM tested RTX 5090D/5080 and RTX 4090 only to discover their PSU no longer works and cables are melted. Prior to the launch of the GeForce RTX 50 series, we mentioned that since both the RTX 5090 and RTX 5080 GPUs have higher power limits...

videocardz.com

 

[mrk]

If we are seeing 1 connector melt out of all 8 5090s that were sold then those are some strong odds

 

[TNA]

MFG is just a feature you can use or not, it doesn't matter at the end of it, the game is still the game, just like using x2 frame gen on other cards. Doesn't change the actual game if it's a well developed game..

But you could make that argument for many things. Why buy a 4 figure graphics card instead of a 3 figure one. Doesn't change the game if well developed.

 

[Raumarik]

I saw too many 4090 repair vids on youtube to want a 50 series pulling more power tbh. At this rate these GPUs will need specific PSU standards per model to ensure cables and PSU unit are good enough.

 

[wookiee87]

melted cable adds should be put up on those auction sites along side the 5090 listings, make the scalper sweat!

 

[Absolutely Clueless]

There we go, first case of melted power cables with the 5090

That did not take long at all; so few GPUs in the wild and already cables are melting!

Hong Kong media PCM discovers melted cables and PSU failure after testing RTX 5090D/5080 - VideoCardz.com

Hopefully, the first and last instance of melted cables PCM tested RTX 5090D/5080 and RTX 4090 only to discover their PSU no longer works and cables are melted. Prior to the launch of the GeForce RTX 50 series, we mentioned that since both the RTX 5090 and RTX 5080 GPUs have higher power limits...

videocardz.com

Time to get the popcorn out, chaps. Here we go 600w through a single flimsy connector. How stupid do you have to be?

 

[HRL]

Not saying there isn’t potentially a problem with the connectors again, because it’s too early to tell, but it is entirely possible that they were reusing the cables over and over again while swapping GPU’s around to do their reviews.

Wasn’t that a known problem with the previous cables too? Connecting and disconnecting them repeatedly increased the risk of failure?

 

[mrk]

But you could make that argument for many things. Why buy a 4 figure graphics card instead of a 3 figure one. Doesn't change the game if well developed.

Well yes it does, a lower end card isn't going to get the baseline performance to yield suitable input latency before the tech is enabled to yield a good experience, aka the whole situation when Frame gen came with RTX40 series and the whole hate for "fake frames" came about because the experience is only decent with a 4080 or above and now people will go through the whole cycle again once the 5070 and lower stack are released.

That's just FG, add path tracing into the mix and the number of cards that can give a good experience on that are just as small generally.

 

[parisv]

There we go, first case of melted power cables with the 5090

That did not take long at all; so few GPUs in the wild and already cables are melting!

Hong Kong media PCM discovers melted cables and PSU failure after testing RTX 5090D/5080 - VideoCardz.com

Hopefully, the first and last instance of melted cables PCM tested RTX 5090D/5080 and RTX 4090 only to discover their PSU no longer works and cables are melted. Prior to the launch of the GeForce RTX 50 series, we mentioned that since both the RTX 5090 and RTX 5080 GPUs have higher power limits...

videocardz.com

it's been updated. It was the 4090 so that's fine as the 4090 is gpu Jesus.

 

[Mesai]

There we go, first case of melted power cables with the 5090

That did not take long at all; so few GPUs in the wild and already cables are melting!

Hong Kong media PCM discovers melted cables and PSU failure after testing RTX 5090D/5080 - VideoCardz.com

Hopefully, the first and last instance of melted cables PCM tested RTX 5090D/5080 and RTX 4090 only to discover their PSU no longer works and cables are melted. Prior to the launch of the GeForce RTX 50 series, we mentioned that since both the RTX 5090 and RTX 5080 GPUs have higher power limits...

videocardz.com

I can't remember who it was, but they showed the temp reading at the connector when idle and under load - it's just mental that Nvidia stuck with it.

 

[wookiee87]

I can't remember who it was, but they showed the temp reading at the connector when idle and under load - it's just mental that Nvidia stuck with it.

load temp under a flir camera was 78c for the gpu conector area

 

[Mesai]

load temp under a flir camera was 78c for the gpu conector area

Yea, that sounds about right. Pretty high when you consider the broader audience where people will install it differently, possibly have worse airflow in their case, etc.

 

[Absolutely Clueless]

load temp under a flir camera was 78c for the gpu conector area

I think HUB or Debauer saw 81c when the 5090 was overclocked. Absolutely nuts.

 

[wookiee87]

I think HUB or Debauer saw 81c when the 5090 was overclocked. Absolutely nuts.

A few hours at that kind of heat things are going to go south pretty quick

 

[pdhenin]

Seeing a few people online posting about clock issues on the 5080 where the card gets stuck at a lower clock speed.

I've just had the same with mine with the gpu boost clock stuck at 2300 but after a reboot it goes back to hittings 2800, anyone else noticed this?

All the reports I've seen so far say its always fixed with a reboot.

 

[CornyOC]

If I recall it is about high refresh rates (240Hz) and high resolution.

80Gbps is enough for 4k @ 240Hz, barely though

 

[Tinek]

Not saying there isn’t potentially a problem with the connectors again, because it’s too early to tell, but it is entirely possible that they were reusing the cables over and over again while swapping GPU’s around to do their reviews.

Wasn’t that a known problem with the previous cables too? Connecting and disconnecting them repeatedly increased the risk of failure?

Both sides (on PSU and card itself) have very limited lifespan, always had. But that also means any time one unplug it at home it increases the risk of failure considerably. Not a good design!

 

[CornyOC]

Or perhaps, and this is purely MY speculation, hold off for a year. Because with the reception the 5080 has had, a Super / Ti might come sooner than people think.

Let's remember this is Nvidia, we should never be surprised at what they do.

Probably a 5080Ti, There's too much gap between 5080 and 5090, not to mention 16GB VRAM only. It's crying out for a Ti launch. If a super comes out it will be a (nearly) whole gen relaunch like it was for the RTX 4000 series. The 5090 won't get another version, but the rest likely so. First the 5080Ti in about 6-9 months, then 5060s, 5070s, 5080s, each being 3-5% better than whatever is best version prior.

 

[CornyOC]

If we are seeing 1 connector melt out of all 8 5090s that were sold then those are some strong odds

People will be quite meticulous about how they insert the plug. PCIe 5.1 spec helped but didn't make it melt proof. Probably a few dozen kids will melt the socket on their 3 grand GPU, then post it on Reddit.