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NVIDIA RTX 50 SERIES - Technical/General Discussion

I saw an article stating it should be a 5070 as well. They have a gap between the 5080 and the 5090, I can't imagine them not populating it. Disappointing GPU generation for me, but I have a 4090 and upgraded from a 2080 super. Guess I struck gold, 1500 for a 4090 seemed expensive in 2023.
Does the 5080 use the Entire GB203 die? If so then anything bigger would need a GB202 die, which seemingly they're very short on just now.

Obviously yields can improve but that would increase costs for Nvidia too.
 
Nice, that's almost 1k profit if you had the FE, slightly less if AIB. What did you move onto at the time?

Was over 1K profit :D

Picked up a brand new 3070 FE for i think it was £480. Then sold that for £400 and got a used 3080 Ti for £575. Sold that for £475 and got my current card which is a 4070Ti for £575 brand new.

Was going to get a 5070Ti. But the uplift in performance is smaller than I expected. The extra bram would be nice, but I have yet to have issues with 12GB, so don't see the point.
 
no it won't because the US cannot compete with China's low manufacturing costs due to lower wages and land costs (which is the reason all the tech companies make their goods there in the first place), so inevitably prices will go up.
Absolutely, I'd put money on this if I could. Especially RIP GPU prices when they get made there. By that point, 70 class cards will be 4 figures for sure.

A nice similarity/analogy is the manufacture of guitars. The same guitars made in America cost far more than the same guitar made in Mexico. E.g. an American Fender Strat costs hundred of quid more than a Mexican Fender Strat.

Just seen latest podcast by Digital Foundry and... it's 3rd video by them that I've seen where they really don't like 5080. This time they even said they think it should be unlaunched and rebranded as 5070, with proper price cut. They also believe this means 5070 and 5070Ti will be a bad value cards too. Interesting, as they're the last people I'd expected to bash NVIDIA and 5k series, but here we are. :) To add to this, they hope AMD will show 9k series with a good pricing to kick the butt out of 5k series (not 5090 obviously) with price/perf and be a great choice for gamers.
If Digital Foundry of all people are calling 5000 series terrible and want it renamed/unlaunched... then there's no argument that the 5000 series is the worst Nvidia GPU gen in a long time :cry:
Also props to DF for finally waking up and smelling the coffee. I hope this generation sells poorly enough that Nvidia learns a lesson. Though honestly unlikely.
 

Oh dear, I hope this is mostly just because it's a dev card and not retail.

At least its been made aware of early and (probably) months before mine gets here.

Reinforces my decision to undervolt (has anybody got a dumb dumbs guide to do this properly?) The card, the cable plus the power gives me the heebijeebies.
 
If Digital Foundry of all people are calling 5000 series terrible and want it renamed/unlaunched... then there's no argument that the 5000 series is the worst Nvidia GPU gen in a long time :cry:
Also props to DF for finally waking up and smelling the coffee. I hope this generation sells poorly enough that Nvidia learns a lesson. Though honestly unlikely.
In their case it feels as if they suck up to vendors to get early access to GPUs and do reviews/tests etc. hence reviews sound like they sound, but when on the podcast they show their more real faces and state things like the above, along with agreeing MFG is good only for very high refresh monitors with high input FPS, etc. As in, on podcasts they sound very balanced towards all vendors, sensible etc. And they also complained about really bad drivers for their 5090s, with Control crashing all the time, few other games also not running properly, so they can't even test things well currently, till NVIDIA fixes these problems - rushed release.
 
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Oh dear, I hope this is mostly just because it's a dev card and not retail.

At least its been made aware of early and (probably) months before mine gets here.

Reinforces my decision to undervolt (has anybody got a dumb dumbs guide to do this properly?) The card, the cable plus the power gives me the heebijeebies.
Just seen this vid, I think Jay is just testing the whole Zotac solution, so both hardware and software. But in a real scenario, you'd just use Afterburner, not Zotac OC software. So nothing to worry about.
 
Not sure how that would suddenly allow them to make larger than the 5080 without using the GB202 die, but ok?
What! Make larger than the 5080, make what larger than the 5080.

And why would the 5080 without using the GB202 die?

It's pretty simple, the GB203 die should not be called a GB203 it should be the GB204.
 
For the first time ever, Nvidia employees are blocked from buying cards. In previous launches workers at their HQ were given the chance of buying a card ahead of the queue, but supplies are so bad that they are not selling the 5000 series to staff at this stage.

There is apparently also a poster near the front entrance of the HQ that says employees will need to fight to the death to get a 5090

 
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What! Make larger than the 5080, make what larger than the 5080.

And why would the 5080 without using the GB202 die?

It's pretty simple, the GB203 die should not be called a GB203 it should be the GB204.
My post you quoted was about the gap between the 5080 and 5090 and them making a card inbetween. My point was they would need to use the GB202 die to do so because GB203 is already maxed out on the 5080.
 
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