NVIDIA RTX 50 SERIES - Technical/General Discussion

EuhenioP · 5 Feb 2025 at 19:40

ProStreet said:
Is it bad that I've paid for an autobuy app thing for the rtx 5090. It only does one retailer and it's very limited in functionality, ie can't select specific cards, you just put a maximum price.

Even with this autobuy thing it's difficult to get one.

It’s like Kinder Surprise back in the day. Never know what you’ll get in that damn egg.

CornyOC · 5 Feb 2025 at 19:43

Sargatanas2511 said:
I don't think even Nvidia could possibly have enough just now to build a house from.

Obviously not now, but if no 5090/5080s arrived for another half a year, and then some bilionaire guy uploads a video like that...

Sideeffect · 5 Feb 2025 at 21:10

Grim5 said:
Despite being a big feature for RTX5000, RTX Mega Geometry actually benefits older hardware much more than new.

A 9800x3d paired with a 5080 or 5090 sees basically no performance increases with Mega Geometry. But pair a 3600 and a 2080ti and you see 15% higher framerate than before. This higher framerate applies when pairing a strong cpu with a weak GPU but especially applies with a weak CPU, the weaker the CPU the higher the frame rate increases from having mega geometry on

So overall despite Nvidia saying Mega Geometry runs best on RTX5000, it looks like gamers with older CPus and GPus will see the real benefit

Yes I was wondering if it's only beneficial if you are close to the VRAM limit, maybe it will be a better feature for the 5070. Perhaps it will only help the 5080 in games like Indiana Jones but it would be difficult to compare that to a card from the 3000 series.

Edit- The 3000 series is getting lots of good gains this generation!

Finners · 5 Feb 2025 at 21:31

Grim5 said:
Despite being a big feature for RTX5000, RTX Mega Geometry actually benefits older hardware much more than new.

A 9800x3d paired with a 5080 or 5090 sees basically no performance increases with Mega Geometry. But pair a 3600 and a 2080ti and you see 15% higher framerate than before. This higher framerate applies when pairing a strong cpu with a weak GPU but especially applies with a weak CPU, the weaker the CPU the higher the frame rate increases from having mega geometry on

So overall despite Nvidia saying Mega Geometry runs best on RTX5000, it looks like gamers with older CPus and GPus will see the real benefit

very interesting, seems to have basically no downsides. Wonder how hard it is to do for the developers or if it will just become standard going forward.

Joeyuk · 5 Feb 2025 at 21:46

TNA said:
Not bad. Sold my 3080 for £1620 during the mining boom to cex

Same here, sold a few to them tbh and then had a few mining. Ended up with a Evga 3080 for £570 after all the madness was over.

Gerard · 5 Feb 2025 at 22:43

ASUS unveils ROG Astral GeForce RTX 5090 Dhahab "Gold" Edition - VideoCardz.com

ASUS is set to launch a custom ROG Astral graphics card, designed for Middle East market exclusively Skyscrapers, gold, and sand. ASUS has announced a new edition of its flagship ROG ASTRAL graphics card, a quad-fan design that is currently one of the most expensive cards on the market. Now...

videocardz.com

Definitely some crack being done on the daily at asus.

GoRedwings19 · 5 Feb 2025 at 22:47

Gerard said:
ASUS unveils ROG Astral GeForce RTX 5090 Dhahab "Gold" Edition - VideoCardz.com

ASUS is set to launch a custom ROG Astral graphics card, designed for Middle East market exclusively Skyscrapers, gold, and sand. ASUS has announced a new edition of its flagship ROG ASTRAL graphics card, a quad-fan design that is currently one of the most expensive cards on the market. Now...

videocardz.com

Definitely some crack being done on the daily at asus.

everyone hates on the gamerock for being ugly but even that card doesn't come close to how ugly this card is. Instead of offering garish finishes how about fixing that 4th fan and the coil whine?

Grim5 · 5 Feb 2025 at 22:51

Nitefly · 5 Feb 2025 at 22:55

… I love that

Not enough to buy it… but it’s fun

Distracted · 5 Feb 2025 at 22:56

harmattan said:
Some of the 5090 models look like you could build houses out of them.

Having the walls self render would be a plus.

Grim5 · 5 Feb 2025 at 23:02

Gerard said:
ASUS unveils ROG Astral GeForce RTX 5090 Dhahab "Gold" Edition - VideoCardz.com

ASUS is set to launch a custom ROG Astral graphics card, designed for Middle East market exclusively Skyscrapers, gold, and sand. ASUS has announced a new edition of its flagship ROG ASTRAL graphics card, a quad-fan design that is currently one of the most expensive cards on the market. Now...

videocardz.com

Definitely some crack being done on the daily at asus.

It's the 5090 Astral RAGE

RAGE = Rich Arab Gold Edition

CornyOC · 5 Feb 2025 at 23:43

CornyOC · 5 Feb 2025 at 23:50

Grim5 said:
Despite being a big feature for RTX5000, RTX Mega Geometry actually benefits older hardware much more than new.

A 9800x3d paired with a 5080 or 5090 sees basically no performance increases with Mega Geometry. But pair a 3600 and a 2080ti and you see 15% higher framerate than before. This higher framerate applies when pairing a strong cpu with a weak GPU but especially applies with a weak CPU, the weaker the CPU the higher the frame rate increases from having mega geometry on

So overall despite Nvidia saying Mega Geometry runs best on RTX5000, it looks like gamers with older CPus and GPus will see the real benefit

I seen 10-30% more FPS in select games once I installed the 9800X3D, paried with 7900XTX. Playing in 5120x1440 240Hz G9 monitor.

CornyOC · 6 Feb 2025 at 02:01

GoRedwings19 said:
everyone hates on the gamerock for being ugly but even that card doesn't come close to how ugly this card is. Instead of offering garish finishes how about fixing that 4th fan and the coil whine?

Asus has been targeting gimmick and flashy features instead of function for past 8 years or so.

AMDPower · 6 Feb 2025 at 02:49

harmattan said:
The laws of thermodynamics are immutable. 650w TDP needs a hefty HS.

How about an AIB add a peltier cooler to one of their models (remember those?) We're already in the domain of ridiculous energy usage for these cards, might as well go whole hog.

although you are correct, but I also don't think we need almost 3kg of Heatsink, the only thing NVidia did right this round was the design of the 5090 FE, very efficient cooling for its size although running somewhat hot it functions within thermal tolerance of the components. We don't need these 4 slot cooler GPU that look like breeze blocks. I agree if TDP keeps rising like this they just cant keep on making heatsink on the gpu bigger and bigger, Peltier might be an answer but they also have drawbacks.

Doop! · 6 Feb 2025 at 07:45

Distracted said:
Having the walls self render would be a plus.

Only 1 in 4 walls are real

Grim5 · 6 Feb 2025 at 08:17

Testing discovers RTX5000 GPUs have 20% higher memory latency than RTX4000

https://www.reddit.com/r/hardware/comments/1iitu5c/could_blackwells_subpar_ray_tracing_be_caused_by/

Can this explain some of RTX5000's disappointing performance?

Rob_B · 6 Feb 2025 at 08:27

Has anyone tried downclocking the VRAM yet and seeing what difference it makes to performance and power usage? I recall a brief comment from one review saying it overclocked by a huge amount (core OCd as well though) but the difference was barely noticable so I'm wondering just how necessary GDDR7 actually is.

Sin_Chase · 6 Feb 2025 at 08:54

Grim5 said:
Testing discovers RTX5000 GPUs have 20% higher memory latency than RTX4000

https://www.reddit.com/r/hardware/comments/1iitu5c/could_blackwells_subpar_ray_tracing_be_caused_by/

Can this explain some of RTX5000's disappointing performance?

Clickbaity with no analysis or interpretation.

Richdog · 6 Feb 2025 at 09:42

Sin_Chase said:
Clickbaity with no analysis or interpretation.

That describes most of the links/info people post in this thread.