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NVIDIA RTX 50 SERIES - Technical/General Discussion

Nitefly said:
^ that’s not ‘wrong’ though. They are just saying “don’t use cable 1, use cable 2 - because it has improvements”.

That’s not going quite as far as Moddiy who did say ‘the specs have changed because of the new standard’ - that is the bit that’s BS.

In the Reddit thread you posted, they do generally stick with ‘use cable 2 - it’s better’.

I agree that does get a little murky when they say ‘Nvidia recommends using cable 2 with 50 series’ - have they? I’m not sure they have… publicly, at least.

Was all of this confusion avoidable? Undoubtedly, yes.
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They're not framing it like that though at all. Numerous times Reddit users say something like "I thought only the connectors changed, not the cable" *clearly* talking about the spec change. Someone from Cablemod will directly reply "Oh there were some minor changes to the cable, buy our new 12V-2x6 cable". They also seem to be telling people they should buy the new cable for 50 series GPUs.
the new RTX5000 series cards should use a new 12V-2x6 cable instead of an old 12VHPWR one
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Clearly this is deliberate misdirection. Exactly the same as MODDIY. It's fine to iterate on your cable and add some improvements but stop pretending your newer version is part of the 12V-2x6 spec. It's really dishonest.
 
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@SeeNoWeevil - with regards to this:

“the new RTX5000 series cards should use a new 12V-2x6 cable instead of an old 12VHPWR one”
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So long as their “new 12V-2x6” cable is actually safer than their old “12VHPWR” one then I don’t have a problem with this statement.

^It gets to the right answer without complicating it. Sometimes, a simple answer with a clear direction of “what to do” is better than a confusing longer answer that dives into the “why”. I encounter this annoyance at work allll the tiiimmmme :o (any version of “why” that isn’t exhaustive and the length of a book ends up people asking yet more questions / getting things wrong).

However, I’m also prone to being annoyed by misleading statements regarding these cables - see here. Granted, these statements are similar but in my example there is more emphasis on the changes in standards being responsible for the changes in the cables.

It’s possible that I’ve missed the most outright misleading statements from Cablemod from your links - I acknowledge that I haven’t ‘crawled’ them. If Cablemod have outright suggested that “H++ cables are different because of the change in standards” then I’d agree with you that this was misleading.
 
@Nitefly If we were having a discussion about 12V-2x6 and you said to me with confusion "Oh, I thought there weren't any changes to the cable with 12V-2x6? (clearly talking about the spec)" and I just replied with "Oh yeah, there was a small change to the pins". In that context, it's safe to say you would come away thinking the spec affected the cable in addition to the sockets.

Also, you absolutely cannot give the impression the old cable is unsafe for 50 series, which they are clearly doing with their phrasing. (I mean, all cables are unsafe for 50 gen but that's besides the point)

Spec names matter. If someone selling a 'Ultra Speed Hdmi Cable' makes some minor revision to their manufacturing, it's still sold as a 'Ultra Speed Hdmi Cable'. They might point out *new 2024 version with braided sleeving!. Usually the standards organisation behind these things insist on very specific phrasing manufacturers should use to avoid customer confusion. PCI SIG seemingly haven't so people are jumping on this to upsell new cables.
 
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Grim5 said:
Modern CPUs still can't run advanced physx

As shown in the examples, using a 5090 with a 7950x3d and turning on physx in Cryostasis results in fps of 13, where as using a 4000 series GPU it is 100fps as physx can run on those GPU's
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Back to sticking a second GPU in that can do PhysX it seems, everything seems to be going backward again... More you buy the less you get...

CPU PhysX has always been terrible and I don't understand why Nvidia silently drops features or later makes excuses to drop them once people have purchased the hardware..

Example the 3000 series where the 3090s came with SLI/NVLINK and then they dropped dual card gaming support from the drivers and only games with native support will work and no SLI profiles and support for old style SLI.. Of course they only stated that on their knowledge base after the cards had come out and sold only for some that purchased SLI setups to find gaming will not work anymore.. This PhysX 32bit move is the same again.
 
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SeeNoWeevil said:
@Nitefly If we were having a discussion about 12V-2x6 and you said to me with confusion "Oh, I thought there weren't any changes to the cable with 12V-2x6? (clearly talking about the spec)" and I just replied with "Oh yeah, there was a small change to the pins".
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But... These cables have no pins. :) pins are on the side of the graphics card and PSU, but not on the side of cables. Ergo, the cables really didn't change as per spec, sockets on the GPU side did (usually not on the PSU side though!). It's all confusing rubbish for the consumer, and corporations abuse it to upsell their own rubbish. :/
 
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Some 5070Ti reviews are starting to appear:-

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Galax GeForce RTX 5070 Ti 1-Click OC White Review

The Galax GeForce RTX 5070 Ti 1-Click OC White is a custom design model of NVIDIA's newest release that still sells for the baseline MSRP of $750. Besides the white color theme you get a small factory overclock and an excellent cooler that emits very little noise, even under full load.
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MSI GeForce RTX 5070 Ti Ventus 3X OC Review

NVIDIA has launched the GeForce RTX 5070 Ti today, lifting the review embargo. The MSI RTX 5070 Ti Ventus 3X comes at NVIDIA MSRP of $750, yet includes a small factory overclock. In terms of performance, the Ventus is able to compete with RTX 4080 Super and RX 7900 XTX.
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