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NVIDIA RTX 50 SERIES - Technical/General Discussion

Gibbo said:
I'd always buy the faster GPU.
Also 50 series has improved memory compression and technology so typically at 1080P/1440P on 50 series should not be exceeding 12G VRAM.

I doubt a 5060 Ti 16G will ever outperform a 5070 today or in a years time.

Still I feel the 5060 Ti 16G from £399 is very well priced, but suspect the well supplied OC variants will cost more for sure but no room to scalp these so scalpers be suicidal to buy the 5060 Ti considering 5070's are in stock from £499 at OcUK.
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So the only viable choices are 5070ti and 5080 for mid range. No wonder the 9070 XT is so popular. This gen badly needs a good $500 card that runs like a 5070ti/9070 XT.
 
So the 5060 is now a £400+ card if you want to make it worth bothering with. I can't say I'd be recommending it, I'll just advise people to wait for the RX 9060 (XT), or give it until summer onward when the 9070 will probably be bundled with 3 or4 games and be down at £479 or less.
 
Gibbo said:
Also 50 series has improved memory compression and technology so typically at 1080P/1440P on 50 series should not be exceeding 12G VRAM.
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No offence meant here, but that sounds a lot like Nvidia snake oil to me Gibbo. I own a 4080 Super and even at 1440p, there are quite a few games which push close to the 16 Gigs.

If there are any meaningful benchmarks that can demonstrate what I quoted, I'd be interested to see them.
 
heatonpkmassive said:
No offence meant here, but that sounds a lot like Nvidia snake oil to me Gibbo. I own a 4080 Super and even at 1440p, there are quite a few games which push close to the 16 Gigs.

If there are any meaningful benchmarks that can demonstrate what I quoted, I'd be interested to see them.
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Buy the more expensive card, the one that everyone hates and is below MSRP, is not advice I'd be giving right now. But I'm not selling 5070's :cry:

There's no solution to not having enough VRAM, 'memory compression technology' can't be shoehorned into a game that doesn't already have it, turning down settings doesn't always work, and upscaling/frame gen often increases VRAM usage.
 
heatonpkmassive said:
No offence meant here, but that sounds a lot like Nvidia snake oil to me Gibbo. I own a 4080 Super and even at 1440p, there are quite a few games which push close to the 16 Gigs.
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The memory compression stuff is indeed snake oil. However, your 4080 probably isn't using anywhere near 16 gigs at 1440p, it's just being allocated.

Unless you're playing modded titles with texture packs etc, it's very unlikely that any game is actually using 16 at that resolution. Many people are using 16GB cards at 4k and aren't running into VRAM hitching etc.
 
Downloaded The Last of Us Part 2 last night. First game I’ve played, so far, that draws the full 600W down the melty cable with my big overclock. I have the Xtreme Waterforce.

The frigging heat in my apartment after 30 mins was insane. After 8 beers last night I thought it would be funny (and it was to be fair) to stick my face on the front of the case where the radiator is attached. I now look like Harvey Dent from Batman.

But in all seriousness jeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeez the heat :D. Glad that’s going through a radiator and not into my CPU AIO…. Voltage is like 1.03V ish @ 3200Mhz ish. Think that’ll be one where I have a different profile active :D
 
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heatonpkmassive said:
No offence meant here, but that sounds a lot like Nvidia snake oil to me Gibbo. I own a 4080 Super and even at 1440p, there are quite a few games which push close to the 16 Gigs.

If there are any meaningful benchmarks that can demonstrate what I quoted, I'd be interested to see them.
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Well according to NVIDIA they improved the memory usage on 50 series, so would be interesting to see a head to head on the 5080 VS 4080 Super see if the 5080 has same issues. Just NVIDIA made quite a thing about memory usage been less on 50 series, of course be interesting to know if its true in real world.

One thing I did see was 50 series has hugely impressive video editing performance, though I think the software patches are yet to be released in some programmes like Adobe yet.
 
Looks like nvidia compress memory usage so much that it turns into black hole screen
 
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Gibbo said:
Well according to NVIDIA they improved the memory usage on 50 series, so would be interesting to see a head to head on the 5080 VS 4080 Super see if the 5080 has same issues. Just NVIDIA made quite a thing about memory usage been less on 50 series, of course be interesting to know if its true in real world.

One thing I did see was 50 series has hugely impressive video editing performance, though I think the software patches are yet to be released in some programmes like Adobe yet.
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It's a really small difference, about 200mb less in most cases which gets completely eaten up if you turn on frame gen.

 
Rusty0611 said:
Downloaded The Last of Us Part 2 last night. First game I’ve played, so far, that draws the full 600W down the melty cable with my big overclock. I have the Xtreme Waterforce.

The frigging heat in my apartment after 30 mins was insane. After 8 beers last night I thought it would be funny (and it was to be fair) to stick my face on the front of the case where the radiator is attached. I now look like Harvey Dent from Batman.

But in all seriousness jeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeez the heat :D. Glad that’s going through a radiator and not into my CPU AIO…. Voltage is like 1.03V ish @ 3200Mhz ish. Think that’ll be one where I have a different profile active :D
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To be fair mate if you can afford a 5090 and afford the high power bill, then you can afford air conditioning to deal with the heat too

I used to have the same issues with Summer Heat, then installed AC and now for the cost of $5 a month, the AC can 24/7 and keep the place cool even with a high power GPU

Or if you're cheapskate about cooling then try this

 
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Gibbo said:
Well according to NVIDIA they improved the memory usage on 50 series, so would be interesting to see a head to head on the 5080 VS 4080 Super see if the 5080 has same issues. Just NVIDIA made quite a thing about memory usage been less on 50 series, of course be interesting to know if its true in real world.
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Given their recent form, I'd say it isn't! Especially if there aren't any benchmarks to demonstrate it..

Appreciate the answer though Gibbo.
 
Grim5 said:
To be fair mate if you can afford a 5090 and afford the high power bill, then you can afford air conditioning to deal with the heat too

I used to have the same issues with Summer Heat, then installed AC and now for the cost of $5 a month, the AC can 24/7 and keep the place cool even with a high power GPU

Or if you're cheapskate about cooling then try this

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Can get by with the window open this time of the year but yeah in summer I’ll be wheeling out the portable AC. Need it even without a thermonuclear 5090 drawing 600W… :)
 
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