• Competitor rules

    Please remember that any mention of competitors, hinting at competitors or offering to provide details of competitors will result in an account suspension. The full rules can be found under the 'Terms and Rules' link in the bottom right corner of your screen. Just don't mention competitors in any way, shape or form and you'll be OK.

NVIDIA Rumored To Release Pascal Refresh With GDDR5X and Faster Clocks – Volta To Feature HBM2 and G

Caporegime
Joined
24 Sep 2008
Posts
38,284
Location
Essex innit!
NVIDIA Rumored To Release Pascal Refresh With GDDR5X and Faster Clocks – Volta To Feature HBM2 and GDDR6 Support, 16 GB Standard Capacity

A hand full of information regarding NVIDIA’s Pascal and Volta GPUs has been shared by Baidu Forums. A forum member known as USG Ishimura has detailed the plans for NVIDIA’s next generation GPUs. There’s no reason to doubt the credibility of this leak however, this is coming from the same guy who talked about NVIDIA Volta GPUs a few months back.

NVIDIA Pascal Refresh and Volta GPU Details Leaked – Rumored For Launch in 2017

NVIDIA launched their Pascal GPU architecture in Q2 2016 for consumers. Since launch, NVIDIA has released several cards for consumer, server and HPC segments. With the new FinFET process, NVIDIA managed to up the already great efficiency of Pascal and take it to new heights. The result is an absolutely stellar architecture that covers the entire stack from top to bottom.

NVIDIA Tesla P100 GP100 GPU_Pascal

But the story is not yet over with Pascal. Pascal is based on an infant node which has just seen the light of day for a few months. TSMC is always refining their process to offer better yields on Pascal GPUs, as those get better, so will the final product. NVIDIA plans to offer new graphics cards in the lineup as the process matures and these ones will be faster and better.

NVIDIA Pascal Refresh To Get Faster Clocks, GDDR5X – GTX 1060 and GTX 1070 Successors in 2017

The rumor is that NVIDIA plans to offer more chips based on the GP102 architecture. They already have a partially enabled model known as Titan X available to consumers but they would try to offer more variants in the stack. We are looking at cheaper variant of the Titan X (Pascal) and the GTX 1080 which will be faster in several ways.

This sounds like a repetition of what NVIDIA did with their GeForce 700 series which was based on refreshed Kepler cores. The GP102 core is relatively new and hence doesn’t need to be updated much. GP104 on the other hand was one of the first consumer chips and that could be updated with the refined 16nm process.


NVIDIA Pascal refresh to feature higher clock speeds, GDDR5X memory and more GP102 SKUs.

The refined 16nm process is meant to offer even higher clock speeds and further stability on the Pascal GPUs. We can see the new chips clocking close to 2 GHz and maintaining those speeds under maximum load. Furthermore, GDDR5X has been a main issue for NVIDIA. Micron is under pressure to offer better yields of GDDR5X chips and that has gotten better over the while.


Micron’s GDDR5X would be featured across the new Pascal lineup, except the entry level, GP107 core. GDDR5X is currently being used on the GeForce GTX 1080, GeForce GTX Titan X (Pascal) and Tesla P40 (ECC). With the coming refresh, Pascal based cards would have GDDR5X on board. Most of the high-end products launching under the refresh would be based on GP102 GPU. With GK110, NVIDIA offered several variants that included the GTX 780, GTX Titan, GTX 780 Ti and GTX Titan Black. We could see a similar trend with Pascal refresh.

NVIDIA Volta Architecture Introduction at GTC 2017 – New NVIDIA Roadmap Unveiling Expected

Moving on from Pascal, we have Volta. Volta is the last GPU of NVIDIA’s current roadmap and is said to be introduced at GTC 2017. This marks a year after the introduction of Pascal to the world. NVIDIA’s CEO, Jen-Hsun Huang will take the stage and introduce the latest Volta GPU architecture to the world. The chip will be aimed at HPC first, just like its Pascal based predecessor and would feature faster and higher capacity HBM2.


Volta GPUs would feature a huge leap in performance per watt compared to current gen chips.
Volta GPUs would feature a huge leap in performance per watt compared to current gen chips.

Jen-Hsun is also expected to showcase an updated NVIDIA GPU roadmap which will include new codenames and tech details for future chips. NVIDIA is expected to drop 10nm process and go straight for 7nm with their post-Volta GPUs, supporting HBM3 and GDDR6 memory standards.

NVIDIA Volta For Consumers Could Launch in 2018 – Rumored To Support Micron/Samsung GDDR6 Memory, 16 GB Standard Capacity
For those excited about Volta in the consumer section, you might be a bit disappointed. Volta, as mentioned, will launch first for the professional market and followed by a consumer launch. That launch is expected around 2018, not 2017. Pascal refresh will span the majority of 2017 and that architecture will be fully tuned for next generation AAA gaming titles.

Seagate Showcases Its Monumental 60TB SSD – The World’s Largest at This Current Time
Now here are some interesting details regarding the memory technologies being featured on Volta. Currently, GDDR5X offers 10 GB/s bandwidth but GDDR6 is expected to go beyond that, up to 16 GB/s. Now you might say that GDDR5X and GDDR6 are the same thing since theoretically, GDDR5X can also reach the same speeds. But, GDDR6 offers improved efficiency that in return offers lower power consumption on high capacity GPU boards.

Samsung GDDR6 memory is expected to feature speeds of up to 16 GB/s, 16 GB standard capacity.
Samsung GDDR6 memory is expected to feature speeds of up to 16 GB/s, 16 GB standard capacity.

We are talking about standard 16 GB VRAM capacities on 256-bit cards, a 2x increase over GTX 1080 and GTX 1070. The GV102 GPU is expected to feature a 384-bit bus with 24 GB of VRAM, 48 GB in updated variants. GDDR6 is slated for 2018 launch so it inclines well with consumer launch of Volta products. NVIDIA’s partnership with Micron and Samsung has been going really well in the memory industry and we can expect them to be the first to utilize their new tech as soon as it’s available.

NVIDIA Volta To Come in 16 GB Standard Capacity Variants
As for HBM2, Volta will be fully compliant with the technology but it will only be available for special products. Currently, the only chip to support HBM2 in the Pascal lineup is GP100, a HPC focused chip. NVIDIA could follow the same trend with Volta and feature HBM2 (32-48 GB @1~1.5 TB/s) on a HPC focused chip, say GV100.

These are some really interesting details and most of them do sound very possible. We still recommend to wait for more official information from NVIDIA themselves. NVIDIA is hosting a major keynote at CES 2017 but we don’t expect to hear anything about Volta until GTC 2017 in May.

http://wccftech.com/nvidia-pascal-volta-gpu-leaked-2017-2018/

wccftech, so usual pinch of salt guys :)
 
So no volta until 2018 and next year's cards are just this years cards with a guaranteed speed of 2.1Ghz?

SO if you have a 1080 or titan which can already do 2.1Ghz the new cards will be pointless?

Glad I bought my Titan now. Looks like Ill be using it for 2 years before anything is worth upgrading to, maybe 3 years.
 
Queue lots of irate Nvidia customers who bought the 1st Gen Pascal as they watch people pickup 2nd gen Pascal cheaper and faster...

Nah seriously though, i doubt only a few people would be upset, its a smart move from Nvidia anyhow, AMD are so far behind now its laughable.

I am tempted to wait out the 1080ti now and just not bother with Vega, sell my Freesync screen or just use it without Freesync and just say goodbye to AMD.

Nvidia might be expensive and shady but atleast they can get cards out into the market and actually offer proper upgrades.
 
I think I will be sitting with this 1080 till Volta personally. It copes with all my games and unless it starts to struggle in the interim, I am quite happy. Only playing ED on the Rift and The Division at present and will be picking up BF1, which by all accounts will run more than well, I don't see a reason for upgrading.
 
This news was out a couple of months back with Nvidia doing a refresh I posted a link at the time and suggested waiting for 2017. Nvidia always do this, never worth buying a first generation die shrink same for Cpu`s
 
Queue lots of irate Nvidia customers who bought the 1st Gen Pascal as they watch people pickup 2nd gen Pascal cheaper and faster...

Nah seriously though, i doubt only a few people would be upset, its a smart move from Nvidia anyhow, AMD are so far behind now its laughable.

I am tempted to wait out the 1080ti now and just not bother with Vega, sell my Freesync screen or just use it without Freesync and just say goodbye to AMD.

Nvidia might be expensive and shady but atleast they can get cards out into the market and actually offer proper upgrades.

same here, i might pick up a 1080 and forgo freesync, i managed ok without it before, i just dont want to get rid of my xr34 as i rate it my best monitor ever
 
I am tempted to wait out the 1080ti now and just not bother with Vega, sell my Freesync screen or just use it without Freesync and just say goodbye to AMD.

I used an MG279Q with a 980Ti and it was fantastic!!Lovely low input lag :cool:

If I hadn't got such a good deal on my X34 then I'd have been happy to keep :)
 
With my main machine not currently having a gpu - think I'll hold for further pascal refresh news; was going to hold off until volta (with it's previous 2017 rumour) but if the refresh happens in place of that then I'll jump on that band wagon if decent.
 
So basically its guesswork and there will be more cards containing a GP102 chip, which is a bit of a no brainer seeing as the GP102 is only used in one card so far (I believe all the other chips are in at two cards or more.) :)
 
*shrug* If you were willing to wait before I don't see why this would sway things. Another GP102 product before Volta has always been very likely and a refresh of existing products is primarily a marketing activity. But then I am an infrequent gamer and am admittedly more of a passive observer more interested in the tech than actual use.
 
I think I will be sitting with this 1080 till Volta personally. It copes with all my games and unless it starts to struggle in the interim, I am quite happy. Only playing ED on the Rift and The Division at present and will be picking up BF1, which by all accounts will run more than well, I don't see a reason for upgrading.

you managed to shrug off the urge for a pascal titan then, i really thought you would cave in and get one
 
you managed to shrug off the urge for a pascal titan then, i really thought you would cave in and get one

Yer, it just wasn't for me this time. I nearly caved but that meant hitting the CC and that wasn't what I wanted to do. Nice card, pricey, fast, but ultimately out of my price range this time. If they had a custom cooled version, I might well have folded though but I really couldn't go back to that cooler after using it on Maxwell Titan X.
 
Yer, it just wasn't for me this time. I nearly caved but that meant hitting the CC and that wasn't what I wanted to do. Nice card, pricey, fast, but ultimately out of my price range this time. If they had a custom cooled version, I might well have folded though but I really couldn't go back to that cooler after using it on Maxwell Titan X.

Tbf unless you plan on another £100 for watercooling it, I wouldnt get a titanxp and run it with its cooler, it would drive me nuts plus you miss out on a good chunk of performance that you paid top dollar for.

Mines at 29C and 2088 all day long so happy :)
 
nails.jpg
 
Tbf unless you plan on another £100 for watercooling it, I wouldnt get a titanxp and run it with its cooler, it would drive me nuts plus you miss out on a good chunk of performance that you paid top dollar for.

Mines at 29C and 2088 all day long so happy :)

I have been watercooled for a number of years and basically didn't want to go that route again when going to X99 and my 6850K. You are quite correct though and it totally deserves a waterblock,
 
Same Greg. Had bought Titans ready to swap out my 1080's but sent them back. Just too much money. My 1080's doing just fine and leaving a single TXP for dust in 99% of the games I play, so was the better option for me.

All games i play I'm perfectly happy with their performance now. See no reason to upgrade just yet really. TW3 nice solid 100 frames, all ultra at 3440x1440.

Don't even think I'm interested in a 1080Ti either this time around. Likely I'll wait and see what Volta has to offer.
 
Last edited:
Back
Top Bottom