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Nvidia, stop being a **** please

GSync vs Freesync is a poor argument, GSync is objectively better, simply because nVidia don't let crap like 48-75hz monitors, or "1440p 144hz" monitors with a 90hz Freesync cap, make it to release.

HD3D vs 3Dvision is a farcical argument. AMD just went LOL DO WHAT YOU WANT, left it to iZ3d and Tridef to implement, one of which went bankrupt, and the other supports like no games. AMD don't HAVE a 3D solution, they just let others make one.

Sorry but how is this amd Freesync issue? The display manufacturer is too blame what range they choose not Freesync.. FYI my BenQ does 35-144
 
He's great at swatting down those strawmen in the description. Adding lots of 1s and !s after a supposed quote lets people know you are obviously right. About time people dropped that crutch. It is the current year after all.

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I would just like if everything on the pc was open for us all..
Nvidia need to stop with locking out amd all they doing is hurting users..
Let us use a amd GPU with Nvidia gpu for Physx. I would have bought nvidia gpu ages ago if this was the case.

This is the reason I support amd is because they aim to be more open about the pc platform.
In comparison nvidia is apple and amd is android am sure you understand what I behind there also. :)
 
Lol^^^^^

No body cares about 3D, get with VR :P

Heh just had a thought about VR - wonder if anyones come up with a system where you have a greenscreen backed controller setup that you can superimpose (via camera stream) spatially into the VR so you can look down and see your actual hands/controls - would make space games, etc. even more epic when you could properly relate to your controls.
 
Fun will start with the next gen of cards.

I think Pascal with the Compute functions back in will be struggling to stay ahead of next gen AMD cards.

Once AMD gets a bigger share of the market it will effect things like sales of Freesync and G-Sync and the prices that go with them.
 
Sorry but how is this amd Freesync issue? The display manufacturer is too blame what range they choose not Freesync.. FYI my BenQ does 35-144

Well that's the problem isn't it, Freesync and HD3D means never having to say you're sorry, as it's always the manufacturer's issue.

Yes. You can buy a good Freesync monitor. And they now even handle below minimum framerates and support Crossfire (both took a looong time mind).

But the average punter runs the "buyer beware" gambit. Often the Freesync ranges are hard to come by or not widely published.

GSync is much better in this regard, and had support for below-minimum framerates, and SLI, from day one - when I bought in to it - 9 months before Freesync came out.

Apple make a fortune selling a more polished experience. nVidia are doing the same thing here.
 
Heh just had a thought about VR - wonder if anyones come up with a system where you have a greenscreen backed controller setup that you can superimpose (via camera stream) spatially into the VR so you can look down and see your actual hands/controls - would make space games, etc. even more epic when you could properly relate to your controls.


That would be awesome, Star Citizen are very big on animations like that, i suspect tho do not know they are looking to have that level of realism.

I have a Mini VR Demo as part of my EaaS subscription, it looks like there are objects placed to enable them to be garbed by hand.

I'm don't have a VR headset but the subscription entitles me to publish any content and assets i get from CryTek, maybe someone with a VR headset can have a look at it for me, Greg?
 
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So, AMD cards don't handle tesselation as well as Nvidia's (improve it), and the talk of AMD open source efforts being good are as far as I can see on technologies that already existed but owned by NVida hence AMD make them free/open source as a marketing tactic. To me it seems a case of if you can't beat the competition, make them look bad.

I like free/opensource products but the're not as good usually as those you pay pay - good things don't come free/cheap. Technology advancements cost money and somewhere along the lines someone pays for it.

Gotta say I don't care for all the Nvida vs AMD BS. Few of us really know what goes on behind closed doors too - most of what we read is opinion or fact declared from hearsay. Long live good games and good GC's from both companies hopefully
 
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Nvidia need to stop with locking out amd all they doing is hurting users..
Let us use a amd GPU with Nvidia gpu for Physx. I would have bought nvidia gpu ages ago if this was the case.
Forget it. They can't even support their own users properly, with Physx performing worse with a dedicated PhysX card thesedays.

You'd think having a card such as GTX560Ti level would be good for handling PhysX would make performance better, but users feedbacks suggest otherwise, and they are "advised" to use just the main card alone instead. It's always been more about PR spin than practical application.
 
My takeaway from that video is Nvidia please spend lost of money developing exciting new technologies and then give them away for free.
 
So, AMD cards don't handle tesselation as well as Nvidia's (improve it), and the talk of AMD open source efforts being good are as far as I can see on technologies that already existed but owned by NVida hence AMD make them free/open source as a marketing tactic. To me it seems a case of if you can't beat the competition, make them look bad.

I like free/opensource products but the're not as good usually as those you pay pay - good things don't come free/cheap. Technology advancements cost money and somewhere along the lines someone pays for it.

Gotta say I don't care for all the Nvida vs AMD BS. Few of us really know what goes on behind closed doors too - most of what we read is opinion or fact declared from hearsay. Long live good games and good GC's from both companies hopefully

Are you enjoying mediocre performance from those awful God Rays in FA4 with its pointless and unnecessary Tessellation?
I don't.

But i do enjoy the same effect in other games that don't have an Nvidia logo slapped on it, they look a lot better too ;)
 
GSync vs Freesync is a poor argument, GSync is objectively better, simply because nVidia don't let crap like 48-75hz monitors, or "1440p 144hz" monitors with a 90hz Freesync cap, make it to release.

HD3D vs 3Dvision is a farcical argument. AMD just went LOL DO WHAT YOU WANT, left it to iZ3d and Tridef to implement, one of which went bankrupt, and the other supports like no games. AMD don't HAVE a 3D solution, they just let others make one.

That does not make it objectively better. The standard and the technology are inferior and objectively and empirically worse. It provides no benefits, slightly higher latency, vendor lock-in, higher price and the monitors are only guaranteed to work at all (not just the adaptive synch) on Kepler & Maxwell. An open standard by its very definition is open and would not work if AMD (or anyone else) decided to enforce strictures about how widely it was implemented. As long as the frequency ranges are published, then there's no problem - and there is no problem as they have been. The 'Freesync' monitors do not have any special hardware .. they simply operate in the ranges that the controllers allow. As it's a VESA standard, almost all future controllers will likely support the entire range.

You may have a point. But at the peak of 3D's popularity perhaps 0.001% of PC gamers were even interested in it, let alone used it. The only time I even see 3D mentioned now (or in the last year / 18 months) is when someone is trying to discredit AMD. 3D generally is pretty much dead, not just on PC ... AMD were clearly right not to pump much money into it. They have a huge advantage over NVIDIA in VR and have invested heavily in it ... that will be far bigger and more lucrative than 3D will ever be.
 
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Not suprising the Nvidia defense league arrived in this thread with the usual suspects.

While AMD aren't perfect, at least at the moment it seems they are at least the ethically better option. Open options are always better than closed.
 
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Well I just downvoted the video, as the guy has no idea what he is talking about and I only watched the bit about Freesync and G-Sync. Terrible.

That's a strange course of action for someone who says he swings both ways :confused:

Personally I wouldn't have upvoted or downvoted the video and abstained from the vote entirely. ;)

Oh...my mistake...I just noticed you have taken the "Swings both ways" Sig down.

A Freudian slip perhaps... :p

Other than that...... I am not going to comment on it. Not worth the hassle or stress at this wonderful time of the year.

Merry Xmas to one and all, whether you be red or green and may all the games for 2016 work well on both sides of the graphics coin.

:D
 
Why lay the blame at Nvidia's feet? Is it really so wrong for a COMPANY to maximize their shareholders' wealth? And why not instead blame the developers for taking "bribes" to utilize nvidia's tech - something they know performs worse on AMD's hardware and bring little to no benefit even for nvidia's users (in the long run; if amd goes bankrupt the prices of nvidia's gpus will skyrocket and innovation stagnate). Oh, and why not blame microsoft for not implementing similar technologies in Direct X? Personally I wouldn't blame anyone, as its clear that the companies involved are all trying do what companies are supposed to do; maximize their shareholders' wealth (amd doing pretty poorly).
 
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