NZXT Adamas

You are in a lot of the cases of this style and usually have to seek alternative methods of storing them, for a rig using a 8800 I would not consider anything less than silencing enclosures for the drives.

Is a specialist case indeed, glad you got them in Fatboy and for £30 less than I was bracing myself for!
 
Omg, i am actually SO tempted by this case :|....

I was thinking of like the PC7 + case or something...but oof.

My only question is...Would having just the one fan situated rite at the bottom of the case on the front hinder airflow? Only reason i ask is cause on my current case i have an 80mm at the fron like, blowing directly towards the cpu etc.

And Yewen, by the looks of things those three screws certainly look as if they'll help removing the hard drive caddy ;)
 
Need to see one in the flesh before I can make such bold claims, people may quote me! :p

The resale value on these is unknown so buying it would be a risk, but worst case scenario is that you end up with a well built case.

Lot of money but if you have it I say go for it, certainly looks the part.

Or buy one for me... ;)
 
Hmm...im not sure, need to look at fundings :P

But it is nice, the one on OcUK comes with all four fans no? Just like to clarify...

Only major hick i have read in reviews is the motherboard mounting, it can be a tad tight due to the rear fan, but surely you can jsut remove it? lol...Oh and apparently the top of the case where its all Heatsinky can collect dust...but meh, so do all cases.

Ohhhhhh, i want one! Or a PC7+ :P...Anything other than this Chieftec Dragon lol, although it is serving me well.
 
Just also read that the case is prone to making things like cd-rom reading / hard drive reading noises a bit more prominent :(...Duno how specific it is...Also if you have an Accelero cooler on your graphics cards...yourll more than likely have to remove one of the side fans.

Agh.
 
Tosk said:
i cant see any GTX 8800 cards fitting in this case at all, its just way to small
the GTS will fit but you might have probs using a hdd in the same path as the card

check out this video review. to get a better look on this case
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=1677325764509876480&hl=en

Oh no - another Rodney "kickass" review. He's actually quite critical in this one, but doesn't touch the key question - "will it hold my 8800?".

For me, it's not quite as cute as the TJ09. I use my front USBs all the time, so their stealthing is actually a slight negative (and I'd worry about that flip cover breaking off).

You've gotta love that side panel removal though.
 
That's a pretty case. Very very very pretty. If it's up to the same build as Lian Li then I think I'd have that over my PC7+ Obviously it's twice the price though, so would have to dig a bit deeper, but still, possibly my favourite looker so far, along with the V1000. :)
 
I just read a bit more and apparenntly it's held together with screws rather than rivets. So I reckon that hdd bay will come out if you need to install a GTX.
 
Hades said:
I just read a bit more and apparenntly it's held together with screws rather than rivets. So I reckon that hdd bay will come out if you need to install a GTX.

Will not hear that coming from my mouth until I have looked at it myself, but I think you have read the same thing as I did. :)

Reviewers across the board are known to get things horribly wrong so it is questionable reliability of the source but still it is promising. :D

The quality from all the reports I have read and heard from people are its built like a tank, although may not have the same attention to detail as the higher end Lian Li cases it is 'built' better.

Think an old Cheiffy Dragon compared to the Antec version, the Cheiffy was stronger and like a tank but the Antec had higher quality drive bays, slightly better rounded edges.

Still not from first hand experience so do not hold me to that. :(
 
Yewen said:
Will not hear that coming from my mouth until I have looked at it myself, but I think you have read the same thing as I did. :)

Reviewers across the board are known to get things horribly wrong so it is questionable reliability of the source but still it is promising. :D

The quality from all the reports I have read and heard from people are its built like a tank, although may not have the same attention to detail as the higher end Lian Li cases it is 'built' better.

Think an old Cheiffy Dragon compared to the Antec version, the Cheiffy was stronger and like a tank but the Antec had higher quality drive bays, slightly better rounded edges.

Still not from first hand experience so do not hold me to that. :(

Hmm Reviewers are great to get a opinion on a case. I can never really find anything wrong with Bit-tech and other quality reviews!

I dont really like the look of the case and its not one for the silence fanatics either.

Antec Solo ***.
 
Why is that case not one for the silence fanatics? :eek:

Some reviewers get things so spectacularly wrong, aluminium mirage front, v1000+ having all the problems of the v1000 and being unable to cool anything, PC7+II having 80mm rear fan when they were too slow to notice they actually had not got a PC7+II.

There are a lot of reported issues with reviews, most reviewers use a case for 1 hour maybe 2 then take it down and are done with it. To get a feel for a case you have to live with it, does it rattle etc.

Reviews I find are usually woefully inaccurate and you can never get accurate cooling comparisons as the computers are always different and never with anything remotely like tidy cabling.

I will take someones opinion who has owned the case for 3 months over every single review of that case on the net, I am quite confident in my mind that it would be a more accurate idea of what the case is like to live with from the point of view of someone who wants to own the case, so the same as mine.

I have been ****** over by reviewers more times than I have fingers for cases, in my experience they are woefully incompetent and some have never even seen yet alone used a case!

I am not saying all reviews are bad, I am just saying anything in CustomPC mag and THG / Anandtech needs to be taken with an extreme pinch of salt.

The NZXT will have a better grounding for a silent computer than a P180 and S80b, it is what I am genuinely considering as the replacement for my S80b.
 
Hi Yewen, whats your take on the V1000 then? I might be purchasing one soon, just trying to read up on it a bit...

I'm worried about the lower front fan, as it doesent really touch any of the components as its sheltered off in the psu column bit.... :/
 
Yewen said:
Why is that case not one for the silence fanatics? :eek:

Some reviewers get things so spectacularly wrong, aluminium mirage front, v1000+ having all the problems of the v1000 and being unable to cool anything, PC7+II having 80mm rear fan when they were too slow to notice they actually had not got a PC7+II.

There are a lot of reported issues with reviews, most reviewers use a case for 1 hour maybe 2 then take it down and are done with it. To get a feel for a case you have to live with it, does it rattle etc.

Reviews I find are usually woefully inaccurate and you can never get accurate cooling comparisons as the computers are always different and never with anything remotely like tidy cabling.

I will take someones opinion who has owned the case for 3 months over every single review of that case on the net, I am quite confident in my mind that it would be a more accurate idea of what the case is like to live with from the point of view of someone who wants to own the case, so the same as mine.

I have been ****** over by reviewers more times than I have fingers for cases, in my experience they are woefully incompetent and some have never even seen yet alone used a case!

I am not saying all reviews are bad, I am just saying anything in CustomPC mag and THG / Anandtech needs to be taken with an extreme pinch of salt.

The NZXT will have a better grounding for a silent computer than a P180 and S80b, it is what I am genuinely considering as the replacement for my S80b.

Yeah, CustomPC and the rest aint too good. But with Bit-Tech you can discuss the verdict in the forums and that way its much better to get an opinion.

NZXT Better than P180 for silence? LOL.

P180, Antec Solo, S80B...etc etc are perfect for silence matters.

With the hard mounting drives, vents in the side for the noise to leak out no sound proofing and Cramped size its not one for the silence computer. Also the pop out PCI slots make me cringe.

Can you fit a Scythe Ninja in there?
 
Avoid the v1000 like the plague.

Buy the v1000+ or v1000+II and you are laughing though, all the faults with the original have been fixed, can fit any PSU you want into it although you have to sacrifice 3 hard drive spaces but this is rarely an issue.

The front fan is an intake, as is the rear fan for most rigs.

The v1000+ is essentially two separate cooling zones, you have the airflow at the bottom of the case, intake through the front fan and its filter through to the PSU with its intake on the bottom of the case and out the back. Gives stunning PSU temperatures and the lowest of any case on the market, although most people do not worry about them.

The top area can be tricky, depending on your rig the rear fan may be best either as an intake or exhaust, adding the blower fan (or the side panel grilled fan) can lead to changing the rear fan. It is all down to just toying around with what works best for your system. :)

I have owned the v1000 from release, then sold on v1000+ release day to get the v1000+ which is the superior of the two in every possible way especially years on.

Buy a v1000 with the + or plus and you are laughing, one of the finest cases ever made and more a research and development for Lian Li than anything if you take a look at the way their case designs are going, but it is a good looker built to the highest standard with good cooling.

Can not ask much more than that, I certainly will not be selling my v1000+ unless it is absolutely necessary.

Yeah, CustomPC and the rest aint too good. But with Bit-Tech you can discuss the verdict in the forums and that way its much better to get an opinion.

NZXT Better than P180 for silence? LOL.

P180, Antec Solo, S80B...etc etc are perfect for silence matters.

With the hard mounting drives, vents in the side for the noise to leak out no sound proofing and Cramped size its not one for the silence computer. Also the pop out PCI slots make me cringe.

Can you fit a Scythe Ninja in there?

No idea, but I would imagine it would fit.

After owning and silencing a P180, S80b, Akasa Eclipse, v1000+ and PC7+ the two easiest cases to silence (and I mean silent = inaudible) while maintaining good cooling were the Eclipse and the PC7+.

The cooling in the P180 and S80b goes to pot when you start getting to low noise levels. The sound proofing does not work and the dual sides on the S80b only work in the most minuscule amount, you buy the S80b as it is a well built super case.

The best way to silence a computer is to have minimal fans running at minimal speeds and just eliminate the noise at the source rather than trying to mask it.

A noisy graphics card in a Eclipse at 50db will be 50db in a P180 although potentially slightly muffled, a 0db passive graphics card will be the same in both cases although the Eclipse will cool better at the lower CFM. ;)

There are two ways to silence a computer, eliminate the source of the noise or mask the noise so it becomes inaudible. The cheapest method is usually to tackle the source.

I will agree that it is easier to make a QUIET pc in the P180 or S80b, if you are just bunging in normal off the shelf components into the PC of course the cases with thicker panels will fare better, but when you start trying to silence them they can give no end of trouble.

My S80b is running on one 5v Akasa Amber fan, the Seasonic S12 Energy+ PSU and a VF900cu on the graphics card. The CPU is cooled by a Zalman Reserator 1+.

I have placed two bath towels in between my side panels and my hard drives are in Silentmaxx Enclosures.

This makes my computer completely inaudible from 20cm away and nigh on inaudible with your ear up to the computer.

It was far harder to silence this than the 120mm in 120mm out computers I have used, maintaining adequate airflow on a complicated case for cooling like the S80 which benefits from high CFM is to put it politely a pain in the rear.
 
Ace, yeah i'm in the process of buying one i think, i believe it has most of the + parts coupled with it...So what are the main differences? This one has had the bottom hdd cage removed, but i only have one drive anyway so thats not to much hassle...

From what i can see it has that fan thats like blower from the rear of the chassis...Another thing, i have a freezer 64 pro, so trying to figure out what the best setup for fans would be.

I'm jsut trying to find a case that basically quieter than my current, although i think my cpu fan is making the most noise out of all my components for some reason :/

I did like the Nzxt, but its needs a few tweaks then it will be an amazing case in my eyes :)
 
The main difference is everything is screwed in the + rather than riveted in the non plus. :)

I would run the rear as an intake and leave it at that, see if the computer is stable and good temps after 5 hours on then leave it at that. If it is not then start experimenting. :)
 
Oh ok cool, yeah i think the case is the non plus...but has the + extras or something :S...

So when you say rear fan, i take it you mean the fan actually built into the rear of the chassis? :) ie where the rear fans normally are, and not the one that sits over the g-card etc.

Cheers for the info tho, i might very well bite the bullet.
 
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