Objectivity & Subjectivity, user posting styles

Yewen · 2 Jul 2006 at 15:17

Ahh people are on the ball, you should all be nursing hangovers.

I view msn as an extension of the forums, as ultimately it is all I use it for.

On the same lines, I view respect where respect is due even on the forums.

People in postitions of authority, or who did the job well when they were there have a huge amount of resepect from me due to the level of work that goes on.

People who post in the hardware forums answering the tricky not usually known problems also instantly get my respect for taking the time to help other people they do not know out. In society you will not find that usually, volunteering is such a rare thing in this day and age.

I think I am quite open and easy to read overall, from my point of view it is quite easy to read what I am trying to acheive with my posts as I usually only ever post with a purpose when I can contribute to a thread, otherwise I would have terrible RSI by now!

Spacky · 2 Jul 2006 at 15:26

Yewen said:
Ahh people are on the ball, you should all be nursing hangovers.

I view msn as an extension of the forums, as ultimately it is all I use it for.

What about other sites am not talking about msn now, alternative forums, online games other areas e-based?

Yewen said:
On the same lines, I view respect where respect is due even on the forums.

So if a person is given a role of respect, do you think that the people who are in theory under them should give respect? or do you think people with a theoretical position of responsibility should earn those below them their respect?

Am always curious when people mention respecting others whether they percieve people should respect them regardless or gain their respect, if that makes sense?

On and off forums/msn/etc etc as I said earlier.

penski · 2 Jul 2006 at 15:28

Spacky said:
What about other sites am not talking about msn now, alternative forums, online games other areas e-based?

So if a person is given a role of respect, do you think that the people are in theory under them should give respect? or do you think people with a theoretical position of resepect should earn those below them their respect?

Am always curious when people mention respecting others whether they percieve people should respect them regardless or gain their respect, if that makes sense?

On and off forums/msn/etc etc.

On a related note; it is my firm view that respect is earned on an individual basis; not given by virtue of being old or in a position of power (whether 'real' or 'purported').

*n

Yewen · 2 Jul 2006 at 15:39

What about other sites am not talking about msn now, alternative forums, online games other areas e-based?

I post as a different identity on every forum I post on, OcUK being my main home due to the community and the only one I browse purely for enjoyment.

So if a person is given a role of respect, do you think that the people who are in theory under them should give respect? or do you think people with a theoretical position of responsibility should earn those below them their respect?

Ok easiest to take my Underboss position as an example, it is a postion of responsibility but people should reply to me as if I was still a Wise Guy, I hope people respected my views then and now should be no different. If a moderator asks you to do something then you should respect their wishes as it is a voluntary job they are doing, but in general talking and posting you should just treat them as a normal member, everyone on this forum should get a equal and fair treatment with respect when it is deserved.

One thing in my books that instantly makes me dislike a person is when they feel to take a poke at someone trying to help the mod team out, or purposefully causing trouble on a free forum. I was on many the end of "Ill post a competitor link and you can't tell me otherwise as your not a mod" tangents in the last few years.

Respect is a funny thing, especially in the context of the forum, you should respect everyones views on the forums; and you should act on anything a member of the moderating team tells you too respecting there wishes on the basis they do a voluntary job keeping this forum open and running.

I most certainly would not like any more respect from my general posts with my Underboss status, but if I ask someone to change something via email or a post on the forums and they tell me they wont then in that situation I think respect for the moderation team would be called for.

Of course that is my opinion on things, and none of the other mod teams, so treat everyone with respect; but personally I would prefer to earn it so I have it regardless of forum position.

Am always curious when people mention respecting others whether they percieve people should respect them regardless or gain their respect, if that makes sense?

Makes sense, I prefer to earn peoples respect, makes for better people to talk to as they are not always trying to post in a certain style or talk on MSN to try and keep with you for whatever motive they may have.

Minstadave · 2 Jul 2006 at 15:53

I'm 99% of the time very chilled about my posts, but then most of the time I'm posting in the hardware forums to recommend upgrades, troubleshoot or just educate, which is a pretty chilled position to be in. Over the years I've got to know a lot of the people on here, and have a lot of respect for the regulars, and have seen plenty of new guys become really good members of the community.

If someone questions something I've said I'll pull up a few benchies and whatnot and argue the point, but even then I'm just prooving a point, its nothing personal, and I don't mind being questioned, but I will fight my corner and enjoy a good battle

At the end of the day this is a hardware forum, I get the best out of it and give what I can, I'm not a big poster in GD as I'm only really here for the hardware side of things, if I want to chat I'll go find a real person

Posting in Speakers Corner can be interesting, though sometimes degenerates into mindless arguing, at which point I'll just leave them to it.

Kell_ee001 · 2 Jul 2006 at 16:05

For me it depends on the subject matter. If what I'm writing about is close to my heart then I write emotionally. If a subject is based more of fact I write it analytically.

I always read everyones post in a thread whether I agree with them or not - but whether take in any of the information depends on what they give to back it up or the impression I have already been given my the poster.

So basically I'm probably a bit of both too

iCraig · 2 Jul 2006 at 16:08

I don't evoke a posting style deliberately, I'm pretty much exactly as I am in real life, as I am on the boards.

Some people like my dry sarcasm, others hate it.

I don't know what people think of me on the boards, but it doesn't matter anyway, because you're all just pawns in my little game.

robmiller · 2 Jul 2006 at 16:16

I see everyone as an individual person with a complex and possibly fictional personality, and would probably be disappointed if I ever met any of you in real life.

Nix said:
I've had a few people snipe at me about it being so high, I only registered in Dec' 05. It ruins the community for me and after all it's only bits of data. I have recently found GD a bit tiresome and repetative and now only post in it occasionaly, residing to posting in SC and CC.

But to be fair, it's so high because you spent your first 3 months of membership spamming the hell out of GD :/

Edit: That's not meant as an attack, you're a decent poster now

IceBus · 2 Jul 2006 at 16:38

I tend to be far more detached in my posting style now than a few more years back. I usually vet my posts quite seriously as well, i.e. I often type something out, realise it's not really going to add anything positive to the thread and then delete it.

Yewen · 2 Jul 2006 at 20:06

IceBus said:
I tend to be far more detached in my posting style now than a few more years back. I usually vet my posts quite seriously as well, i.e. I often type something out, realise it's not really going to add anything positive to the thread and then delete it.

My feelings towards GD, wish more people did that!

Also in hardware threads, solved the problem and the guys says thanks yet people quote each other with solutions long after. :confused:

Cheers for the replies guys, quite an interesting read for General Spam.

semi-pro waster · 2 Jul 2006 at 20:58

Yewen said:
Also in hardware threads, solved the problem and the guys says thanks yet people quote each other with solutions long after.

I don't know if I am guilty of that or not but it does seem a bit futile when all responses are basically identical to keep on going. I try not to respond unless I think I can add something or offer a different point of view, that is why quite a lot of the time in the hardware forums where it is more or less a simple question of fact I often won't bother even reading threads where there are more than say 10 responses.

My posting is usually somewhat less sarcastic than I am in person, partly because of the difficulties of conveying sarcasm effectively in a text-based format and partly because people can get quite offended especially if they don't have my natural charm to offset the sarcasm against

When I'm reading posts I would firstly look at the content of the post but I do also think about what I have seen of the posters previous responses(if anything) as it helps to provide context.

Brizzles · 2 Jul 2006 at 22:08

robmiller said:
I see everyone as an individual person with a complex and possibly fictional personality, and would probably be disappointed if I ever met any of you in real life.

Agree

Me:

Sarcasm , always
Truth , always
Devils Advocate , sometimes*

* If i was blinded by my own opinions then i would never learn , sometimes it is ( personally ) constructive to disagree.

Cheers,

Mark

Glaucus · 2 Jul 2006 at 22:37

Yewen said:
When I make a thread myself asking for something it is usually one I will be posting in subjectively as I personally have an interest in it.

that option unless its global warming, peak oil or other media scarmongering. Making everything into doom and gloom when infact theres scientists can't even agree.

JohnnyG · 2 Jul 2006 at 22:47

I just post stuff & non-sense, rarely get involved in anything too deep as I haven't got the attention span for seriousness

HangTime · 2 Jul 2006 at 23:06

My posting style varies somewhat. Generally speaking, I post objectively and don't tailor my responses to the potential audience (which varies from forum to forum, subject to subject, and even depending on who started the thread). In some ways I am proud of this in terms of the fact that I can buck the trend, or make posts which are self-depreciating or against a cause/team that I support.

However, if challenged on a point I can get a little more subjective and attempt to 'defend myself'. This gets a little more personal as there are some people who I am more wary about getting into a dicussion with because either:

1) I know them to be extremely tenacious in an argument and they have to poential to 'beat' me if my case isn't watertight
2) I hold them in contempt and not worthy of me wasting energy belittling their views
3) I feel that an argument would be against my best interest (e.g. challenging people in authority).

Gilly · 2 Jul 2006 at 23:11

HangTime said:
1) I know them to be extremely tenacious in an argument and they have to poential to 'beat' me if my case isn't watertight
2) I hold them in contempt and not worthy of me wasting energy belittling their views
3) I feel that an argument would be against my best interest (e.g. challenging people in authority).

I don't think you and I have ever crossed swords, and the perceived authority of Donship I left behind a while ago. I'm wondering which of the other two it is

JohnnyG · 2 Jul 2006 at 23:18

HT has always seemed to be very diplomatic in his posts

Yewen · 2 Jul 2006 at 23:40

HangTime said:
1) I know them to be extremely tenacious in an argument and they have to poential to 'beat' me if my case isn't watertight
2) I hold them in contempt and not worthy of me wasting energy belittling their views
3) I feel that an argument would be against my best interest (e.g. challenging people in authority).

Thats a good point, I never thought about the first one you suggested, and I am sadly one who just backs out if I know someone is going to pick me to pieces.

I am fine having it done, but when people have really good debating skills it is quite hard mentally to challenge their views on things, quite daunting infact.

Why I don't post in SC really, full of great threads most of the time and a range of views, its just the level sometimes which people are required to back there personal views up to is a little offputting, I am never sure if on a subject matter I know enough or could find out enough information to conribute to the thread; so it does not warrant a post still.

And I am and always have been cautious of you Gilly, whenever you post you post with authority and confidence, very cool posting style but not one I would want picking me to pieces, same goes for CBS aswell.

Rich1988 · 3 Jul 2006 at 21:54

This did actually have substance contrary to what it was read at obviously, its to do with psychology and replies are to do with sexual dominance but maybe I should have explained this better.

Yewen · 3 Jul 2006 at 21:56

Rich1988 said:
This did actually have substance contrary to what it was read at obviously, its to do with psychology and replies are to do with sexual dominance but maybe I should have explained this better.

Explains it a bit better, it was just a random comment otherwise.

Cheers for the clearup.

I do not think posting on a forum has anything to do with sexual dominance, otherwise I would be going on about cases trying to get one up on people. :confused:

Care to explain that a bit more giving an example post, I can't quite get my head around that one.