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I would never buy a pre-built going off my mates.

It was swimming in thermal paste. I had to clean his board and some even got onto the underside of the old cpu as it was dripping down the sides onto the mobo when we upgraded CPU's 2 years later.

Then he also had the issue of it broke in transit when it was new. I think the GPU broke the motherboard due to pressure and movement. it bent / snapped some stuff. it took over a month and several call outs to resolve. over the phone their diagnosis was maybe the PSu so they sent a new one. after swapping that out still dead. then new mobo fixed it.

Then you have the additional costs, etc.

I'd rather buy everything and have someone local build it for me so I could learn and watch them do it. I have built many pc's and after I slated my mates machine he is never going to buy another pre-build. he would rather now pay me to build for him. his bro had to upgrade the motherboard after i did the cpu due to crashes and he slated the pre-builds use of cable ties was excessive and everything was hidden anyway. so it made the job a lot harder for him as he had to cut them all off when they weren't needed in most places. so after both me and his brother slating it he won't be buying one again.

i'm sure they also installed the ram in the wrong slots.
 
Psycho Sonny said:
I would never buy a pre-built going off my mates.

It was swimming in thermal paste. I had to clean his board and some even got onto the underside of the old cpu as it was dripping down the sides onto the mobo when we upgraded CPU's 2 years later.

Then he also had the issue of it broke in transit when it was new. I think the GPU broke the motherboard due to pressure and movement. it bent / snapped some stuff. it took over a month and several call outs to resolve. over the phone their diagnosis was maybe the PSu so they sent a new one. after swapping that out still dead. then new mobo fixed it.

Then you have the additional costs, etc.

I'd rather buy everything and have someone local build it for me so I could learn and watch them do it. I have built many pc's and after I slated my mates machine he is never going to buy another pre-build. he would rather now pay me to build for him. his bro had to upgrade the motherboard after i did the cpu due to crashes and he slated the pre-builds use of cable ties was excessive and everything was hidden anyway. so it made the job a lot harder for him as he had to cut them all off when they weren't needed in most places. so after both me and his brother slating it he won't be buying one again.

i'm sure they also installed the ram in the wrong slots.
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Not the kind of thing I want to be reading the night before my machine arrives :D

I actually built my last 2 PCs but the last one didn't boot straight away and it really stressed me out. I don't have a massive amount of knowledge or patience for this kind of thing.

I agree it's pretty easy to do, essentially if it fits in the hole it's probably the correct place to put it so to speak! But I wanted piece of mind this time around. I'm hoping OCUK will deliver.
 
orbitalwalsh said:
intel leads at 1080p but thats when you are powering a 240hz 1080p Gaming monitor
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I hear this a lot but it doesn't make sense to me.

So at 1080p, Intel is faster. However, add a huge GPU bottleneck by increasing the resolution (so the CPU doesn't get a chance to max out) and AMD are equal with Intel?

That makes as much sense as saying a Bugatti Veyron is the same speed as a Ford Fiesta when driving through town and you're sticking to the 30mph speed limit.
 
CuriousTomCat said:
I hear this a lot but it doesn't make sense to me.

So at 1080p, Intel is faster. However, add a huge GPU bottleneck by increasing the resolution (so the CPU doesn't get a chance to max out) and AMD are equal with Intel?

That makes as much sense as saying a Bugatti Veyron is the same speed as a Ford Fiesta when driving through town and you're sticking to the 30mph speed limit.
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intels higher clockspeed helps at lower res where cpu is more helpful.

at higher res more stress if placed upon the gpu. so the cpu is less of a concern.

however with the 4000 series. intel won't be faster at anything. and it's marginal anyway. i'd rather buy a 3600X and it will be faster than any intel cpu anywhere near it's price range. then upgrade to the 4600x which will destroy intel cpu's double or triple the price for gaming.
 
Psycho Sonny said:
intels higher clockspeed helps at lower res where cpu is more helpful.

at higher res more stress if placed upon the gpu. so the cpu is less of a concern.

however with the 4000 series. intel won't be faster at anything. and it's marginal anyway. i'd rather buy a 3600X and it will be faster than any intel cpu anywhere near it's price range. then upgrade to the 4600x which will destroy intel cpu's double or triple the price for gaming.
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intel also has the low latency ring bus architecture. However the Ryzen 3rd gen is better for everything else.
 
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