They did but that is changing rapidly. In many cases Intel isn’t a viable option. People are even prepared to go on back order for AMD systems.
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They did but that is changing rapidly. In many cases Intel isn’t a viable option. People are even prepared to go on back order for AMD systems.
Laptop and APU families are always the generation behind the main desktop/server families. So they would only be superseded if you were looking at a completely different market point.
I've only just now read that ASUS have a monopoly on the new Ryzens for a few months... man that sucks.
Lenovo?
Acer has some too apparently
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I've only just now read that ASUS have a monopoly on the new Ryzens for a few months... man that sucks.
HS parts as I understand, as they agreed to follow AMDs certification programme.
H parts don't have that stipulation.
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There's also no evidence of any kind of performance boosts so no idea where 50-70% came from.
Ahh I see, thanks. I'm only really interested in the in the HS parts anyway as they're so crazy powerful and efficient. It's such a crying shame that ASUS didn't implement TB3 on the G14 so that external Gpus can be used.
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Have ordered a 4800U based laptop (or 3, long story) this week.
It's absolutely staggering that you can get an 8c16t thin laptop, that only uses 15W, includes a decent iGPU and the performance is pretty damn impressive. It wasn't even expensive and comes with 16GB of 3200mhz DDR4. Going to be a great mobile photo editing platform.
AMD have gone from just ok to offering desktop class performance at 15W, with even more performance to be had at higher TDPs.
It's absolutely staggering that you can get an 8c16t thin laptop, that only uses 15W, includes a decent iGPU and the performance is pretty damn impressive. It wasn't even expensive and comes with 16GB of 3200mhz DDR4. Going to be a great mobile photo editing platform.
AMD have gone from just ok to offering desktop class performance at 15W, with even more performance to be had at higher TDPs.
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I've only just now read that ASUS have a monopoly on the new Ryzens for a few months... man that sucks.
Don't think that's true, my 4800U is only 2-3 weeks lead time.
Edit - seen its just high TDP parts.
Can you send me a trust with details of this please?
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Also ordered one for the MIL, Ideapad 5 15ARE, managed to get the max spec with the stacked discounts for a great price. In a way as these are so new I'm glad it's going to take around 3 weeks for delivery; gives chance for a BIOS and driver revision to appear before I load windows and set the thing up for her, the feedback I hear from the Zephyrus is pretty good on the AMD side, only real issues I've seen are occasionally that dedicated graphics chip in that model not always powering down, BUT that's not relevant here.
From reading a translated review of the 13" model, it also seems potentially you have full TDP control in BIOS of this machine; you can switch it to Eco 12.5W, standard 15W or performance 25W. If you can handle the higher temps and reduced battery life, and want maximum performance out the thing, its beasty what the 4800U can do with 25W!
In Cinebench with 25W TDP its actually BEATING the 9880H and 10980HK in Cinebench R15 0.o
https://next.lab501.ro/notebook/eng...ml-amd-ryzen-7-4800u-vs-intel-core-i7-10710u/
I'd expect POTENTIALLY the 15" version might be slightly cooler than the 13" as well, but either way!
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Why cant you be a bit less vague say laptop model names... is there some reason you can't divulge any useful details like that?
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Richdog see my response above and the review link to the 13" version.
Despite my laptop in spec, I am super excited to have a tinker with this thing when I set it up for the MIL.
Honestly, at the prices being advertised for the Intel 10th series machines, they are about to get hammered at CPU performance to price at least if this early deal is anything to show. Typically ULV chips aren't exactly much cheaper than non-ULV either due to higher bins, so seems the rumours of AMD's 4800H/4900H etc being more affordable than Intel aren't just rumour as got a 4800U in a machine with an RRP of 680... which at 15/25W is able to rival Intel's i9s in some situations.
That's borderline not even funny, even Intel's move to bring the i9 8cores down to i7 won't beat that sort of price differential.
These ULV 15W chips are potentially even bigger news than the full fat version. Being able to do so much in a ULV form factor brings so many options forward. I love my big, ultra high spec machines, but so much CPU performance in small systems is going to blow open the general purpose laptop market, and potentially bring a lot more price performance to the £500 mass market. Hell, the iGPU is even half decent/usable in these new things albeit wouldn't want to play new games on them unless I don't mind 20-30 FPS.
Despite my laptop in spec, I am super excited to have a tinker with this thing when I set it up for the MIL.
Honestly, at the prices being advertised for the Intel 10th series machines, they are about to get hammered at CPU performance to price at least if this early deal is anything to show. Typically ULV chips aren't exactly much cheaper than non-ULV either due to higher bins, so seems the rumours of AMD's 4800H/4900H etc being more affordable than Intel aren't just rumour as got a 4800U in a machine with an RRP of 680... which at 15/25W is able to rival Intel's i9s in some situations.
That's borderline not even funny, even Intel's move to bring the i9 8cores down to i7 won't beat that sort of price differential.
These ULV 15W chips are potentially even bigger news than the full fat version. Being able to do so much in a ULV form factor brings so many options forward. I love my big, ultra high spec machines, but so much CPU performance in small systems is going to blow open the general purpose laptop market, and potentially bring a lot more price performance to the £500 mass market. Hell, the iGPU is even half decent/usable in these new things albeit wouldn't want to play new games on them unless I don't mind 20-30 FPS.
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I'm just weary of the competitor rules and didn't really want to derail the thread from Renoir onto to cheapo laptop deals. It's sold by the manufacturer so I'm not 100% on what the forum rules allow.
The review above gives you everything you need to know. Theres a huge thread on HUKD.
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Yes, I am also deliberately remaining vague on where from for the same rules and don't want to be disrespectful, at the same time genuinely excited about the price-spec that is now obviously achievable with these new chips. I'll remove machine price to avoid any issues though, but clearly AMD can offer much more affordable chips OR Intel are making huge profits on thier chips.
That may become a lot harder with the release of these at what SUGGESTS a much lower AMD cost price to OEMs.
That may become a lot harder with the release of these at what SUGGESTS a much lower AMD cost price to OEMs.
The graphics performance from the APU is very strong. Seems to beat a MX250.
Ok I see, but as far as I'm aware the competitor rules have not changed. Don't provide a link and don't talk about prices... you can of course just say the model name.
And yes you are right they look damn impressive. Can't order them in my neck of the woods yet though.
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I've seen both (win and lose), even putting it at just-shy of MX250 means it can rival entry level dedicated. That sort of thing is a game changer for so many even if not good for people who want and expect more. Those who've got by gaming on an Intel integrated for many years player older games however...game changer.