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OcUK AMD Renoir review thread

Alexrose1uk said:
I've seen both (win and lose), even putting it at just-shy of MX250 means it can rival entry level dedicated. That sort of thing is a game changer for so many even if not good for people who want and expect more. Those who've got by gaming on an Intel integrated for many years player older games however...game changer.
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Yeah and the MX250 alone is circa 25watts.
 
Minstadave said:
That's what's really impressive 8c16t with some GPU power in a 15W envelope.

That means there's scope for a 16c32t part on mobile. Mental.
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of course there is. There are already laptops fitted with desktop 3950x inside running nice and cool at 65w tdp.

Intel has absolutely nothing to counter it, nothing at all - Intel won't have 16 cores in a laptop for a long time to come
 
Grim5 said:
of course there is. There are already laptops fitted with desktop 3950x inside running nice and cool at 65w tdp.

Intel has absolutely nothing to counter it, nothing at all - Intel won't have 16 cores in a laptop for a long time to come
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True there are. Which begs the question, why arn't the purple shirts full of AMD inside ? Maybe the answer is that the usual OEM's are still taking big backhanders from Intel. Because let's face it, if a cpu was faster, cheaper, cooler and technically superior, why wouldn't you be using it ? Because on the face of it, it should give you bigger sales and bigger profits. Unless of course someone else was already subsidising your profits ?
 
Intel can't compete on performance or efficiency so they'll just play dirty, its history repeating.

Interesting thing is that AMD's product is so compelling it will gain some headway regardless.
 
DragonQ said:
I'm not sure if I'd bother with a standard laptop any more but the new Lenovo IdeaPad 5 15" looks like incredible value.
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I think they've cottoned on to how cheap they were selling them for with the codestacking/removing Windows as you can't remove Windows anymore and Lenovo have blocked most of the discount codes.
 
Minstadave said:
I think they've cottoned on to how cheap they were selling them for with the codestacking/removing Windows as you can't remove Windows anymore and Lenovo have blocked most of the discount codes.
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Still available it’s seems. But yeah the price is very affordable.
 
kitfit1 said:
True there are. Which begs the question, why arn't the purple shirts full of AMD inside ? Maybe the answer is that the usual OEM's are still taking big backhanders from Intel. Because let's face it, if a cpu was faster, cheaper, cooler and technically superior, why wouldn't you be using it ? Because on the face of it, it should give you bigger sales and bigger profits. Unless of course someone else was already subsidising your profits ?
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I suspect the other issue is the previous generation Ryzen mobile was not that good (and AMD haven't had a great mobile offering for some time). It takes a while from design to implementation to release, so even with some knowledge of what 4000 series was LOOKING like, I suspect many played it safe and wanted to see how it turned out before throwing their cash and maybe losing some intel marketing premiums etc, and will maybe come onboard more heavily next round of designs.

That said, I've seen numerous early previews stating stability seems to be excellent which is great news.
 
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willhub said:
Wow my i7 9750H seems obsolete now, but at 1080p I cna't imagine I need a new laptop anytime soon.
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Wouldn't say its obsolete, I am sure the 9750H will still do reasonably against the 6 core AMD parts even if it gets beaten, I just suspect they will have it beat on power consumption, cost and heat. BUT as the 9750H has been out some time now, that's reasonable; it will bring the second hand value of some of the more desktop orientated non-gaming designs though (Gaming design a lot more of the residual value is in the graphics card and overall system IMO).

Should be a good few years for laptops now there is actually going to be some competition starting this year :)
 
Basically if you buy a Renoir now with at least 16GB RAM it's probably good for the next few years, especially if you use it for Photoshop and video editing. It will transform the ultraportables market, as never before will such CPU power have been possible in such small packages for demanding multicore tasks.

Actually, there's likely more chance of your laptop dying, or your GPU becoming obselete, than before the CPU stops having enough juice for your needs. :D
 
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Richdog said:
Basically if you buy a Renoir now with at least 16GB RAM it's probably good for the next few, especially if you use it for Photoshop and video editing. It will transform the ultraportables market as never before will such CPU power have been possible for demanding multicore tasks.

Actually, there's more chance of your laptop dying or your GPU being obselete then before the CPU stops having enough juice for your needs. :D
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Thats my hope, will get a good few years of a 4800U/16GB setup. Just upgrade the SSD when space becomes an issue.
 
The thing I liked with intel laptops was the ability to undervolt to reduce temps a good margin. Do we know if there will be any similar Ryzen master type ability to undervolt to reduce temps at all?
I'm eyeing up the HP Omen 4800H paired with a 2060 which is rumoured to come in at around £1100.
 
michty_me said:
The thing I liked with intel laptops was the ability to undervolt to reduce temps a good margin. Do we know if there will be any similar Ryzen master type ability to undervolt to reduce temps at all?
I'm eyeing up the HP Omen 4800H paired with a 2060 which is rumoured to come in at around £1100.
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I think this is essentially done by AMDs boost algorithms already. There's not a great deal of room for undervolting their desktop Zen 2 chips before you start losing performance. There may be a small amount of headroom still but less so than Intel I'd wager. The performance AMD have wrung out of 15W is astonishing.

Apparently you can tweak EDC using RyzenAdj but gains aren't amazing:

https://github.com/FlyGoat/RyzenAdj
 
Minstadave said:
My Lenovo has finally shipped, can't wait to have a play.
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Congrats, looking forward to hearing your thoughts! :D What was the specific model name you bought so I can go check the specs?

I am getting a little desperate for an S540 13 ARE to be released with Ryzen 7, QHD screen and 16GB RAM. :(
 
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Minstadave said:
My Lenovo has finally shipped, can't wait to have a play.
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As above, what one did you go for?

Minstadave said:
I think this is essentially done by AMDs boost algorithms already. There's not a great deal of room for undervolting their desktop Zen 2 chips before you start losing performance. There may be a small amount of headroom still but less so than Intel I'd wager. The performance AMD have wrung out of 15W is astonishing.

Apparently you can tweak EDC using RyzenAdj but gains aren't amazing:

https://github.com/FlyGoat/RyzenAdj
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Yeah I had been reading that too and to be fair, it works well on my desktop setup. I'm a bit concerned in a laptop environment.
 
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