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I HAVE ALL THE CARDS! (almost)
 
Wardie said:
So you only need £2 at a 0.01/0.02 table?

I'll try and find the book and join the forums tonight and have a skim before depositing some money at PokerStars then.

PKR do the 100% deposit bonus as well.
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Most sites require a Min 10 BB buy-in and max 50 BB buy-in. A general rule is to play at a level where your bankroll would cover 1000 BB's. For example, you'd need $1000 to play .50/1, as this allows for 20 full buy-ins of $50.

If you were going by the rule you'd need the following to play each level:

0.01/0.02 - $20
0.02/0.05 - $50
0.05/0.10 - $100
0.10/0.25 - $250
0.25/0.50 - $500
0.50/1.00 - $1000
1/2 - $2000

Etc. My biggest problem is playing stupid - depositing $50 and playing 0.25/0.50 straight off. :p
 
el_dazza said:
Most sites require a Min 10 BB buy-in and max 50 BB buy-in. A general rule is to play at a level where your bankroll would cover 1000 BB's. For example, you'd need $1000 to play .50/1, as this allows for 20 full buy-ins of $50.

If you were going by the rule you'd need the following to play each level:

0.01/0.02 - $20
0.02/0.05 - $50
0.05/0.10 - $100
0.10/0.25 - $250
0.25/0.50 - $500
0.50/1.00 - $1000
1/2 - $2000

Etc. My biggest problem is playing stupid - depositing $50 and playing 0.25/0.50 straight off. :p
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Don't buy in for 50 big blinds - you won't learn anything and you're stopping yourself from playing much postflop poker. Most sites actually allow 100 big blinds (in some rarer cases, 200 big blinds), however it is generally accepted that 100 big blinds is a better buy in size.

As for bankroll requirements, 20 buy ins of 100 big blinds for your stake are good when you're playing small stakes (less than 0.10/0.25), but as you go up in stakes, your edge over your opposition will decrease which will increase variance. It becomes sensible to get more of a bankroll relative to your stakes. A good starting point:

0.01/0.02 - $50
0.02/0.05 - $100
0.05/0.10 - $200
0.10/0.25 - $500-$700
0.25/0.50 - $1250-$1500
0.50/1.00 - $3000-$4000

... and so on, bearing in mind the bankroll is a guideline, not a target. If you reach $3k but aren't comfortable playing $1 big blinds then it is fine to stay lower :)
 
Killerkebab said:
... and so on, bearing in mind the bankroll is a guideline, not a target. If you reach $3k but aren't comfortable playing $1 big blinds then it is fine to stay lower :)
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Oh yeah without a doubt, those are general guides. I wasn't suggesting anyone SHOULD buy in for the maximum amount, it's just a guide I've heard from many a place and was regurgiating it myself! I don't buy in for the maximum ever, if I'm playing .25/.50 I'll only stick $20-$30 down.
 
Wardie said:
Cheers :)

I just want to practice a bit first. I've mainly being playing on PokerStars for free.

At the moment i'm not bothering trying to bluff and i'm only playing strong hands pre-flop, and i'm not calling very much after the flop if I don't think i'm going to win.

I've been doing a bit of reading about the odds of cards winning and how to think about the game etc, which is useful.

I actually found Low Limit quite enjoyable the other night as you get to play a lot more hands.
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I generally stick to 30 buy ins of 100 big blinds so to play 2NL (1c/2c) you'd be looking at having $60 but as 2NL is as low as you can go with cash games just deposit what you can afford and feel comfortable enough to lose. Personally, I'd not move up a level until you've got 30 buy ins at the new level and played around 25k hands.

I also wouldn't think about playing more than 1 table until you're consitently beating 2NL over at least 10k hands. It will take ages to do but will set you up better for the long haul and make sure you get the basics before you move up.

Harrington on Cash Games is another good book for starting out and isn't as complicated as some of the Sklansky books. It also explains the difference in how you need to play when buying in for the full amount (100 big blinds) or being short stacked (~25 big blinds).

Good luck.
 
el_dazza said:
Oh yeah without a doubt, those are general guides. I wasn't suggesting anyone SHOULD buy in for the maximum amount, it's just a guide I've heard from many a place and was regurgiating it myself! I don't buy in for the maximum ever, if I'm playing .25/.50 I'll only stick $20-$30 down.
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Whilst buying in with 60BB (as you do) can have merits, if you plan on playing cash games regularly you're better off buying in full ($50 in your case, or 100BB if you prefer). It means that you can push more of an edge postflop, wheras with a 60BB stack a lot of hands that you take to the turn/river are all-in spots.
 
Killerkebab said:
Whilst buying in with 60BB (as you do) can have merits, if you plan on playing cash games regularly you're better off buying in full ($50 in your case, or 100BB if you prefer). It means that you can push more of an edge postflop, wheras with a 60BB stack a lot of hands that you take to the turn/river are all-in spots.
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Agreed. 100BB give more options later in the hand.

Short stacked you want all your chips in on pre-flop or on the flop while you're ahead.

I'm not suggesting 60bb is a small stack but it put's you bang in the middle of two totally different strategies.
 
Meths said:
I generally stick to 30 buy ins of 100 big blinds so to play 2NL (1c/2c) you'd be looking at having $60 but as 2NL is as low as you can go with cash games just deposit what you can afford and feel comfortable enough to lose. Personally, I'd not move up a level until you've got 30 buy ins at the new level and played around 25k hands.

I also wouldn't think about playing more than 1 table until you're consitently beating 2NL over at least 10k hands. It will take ages to do but will set you up better for the long haul and make sure you get the basics before you move up.

Harrington on Cash Games is another good book for starting out and isn't as complicated as some of the Sklansky books. It also explains the difference in how you need to play when buying in for the full amount (100 big blinds) or being short stacked (~25 big blinds).

Good luck.
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Cheers :)

I did try playing 3 tables but did start to lose money.

I think I will obviously do better concentrating on one, which I might do tonight as I try out some more stuff I have learned, but given that i'm usually playing pretty tight and folding many hands it can be boring when the table is slow.

I think 2 tables is ok though and allows me to concentrate on the position i'm in, the other players etc.
 
Lolololololol

90 mins into a charity game today

Player "dealer I have pocket Queens"


Dealer "yes, and ? "


Player "of clubs"


:p
 
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Wahey, first online sng tourney finish on pkr. finished in the money on another table and grinded my way down to the last 10. heads up was a right pain in the backside against the other player. kept folding everything and the blinds were only 12k with a 300k stack! finally managed to break her down to an all in with me on 66 and her on A/junk thankfully no aces popped up and i won. not bad for a $5 buyin.
 
started playing limit holdem trying to work my roll up. godamn this game has some savage swings..

souness my man, think you could add me on msn so i could have a lil poker chat with you?
 
I'm terrible at HU play, I've decided.

$4.40 Double Shootout to WCOOP Event 6, 6 player tables, 36 entrants, FT gets cash, winner goes through. First table I came 2nd twice, but was behind both times.

3 time I played, won the table in 15 hands :eek::D - long, boring wait until final 6 now.
 
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