OcUK Rogues Gallery (2020)

RxR · 17 Oct 2019 at 13:52

Quartz said:
Jeebus but you lot make me feel old.

Yep, I wuz thinking the same thing.

Deleted member 77746 · 17 Oct 2019 at 13:53

krooton said:
BeautifulPeople.com was even funnier, and still around!

Wow that site lol!

Akagi · 17 Oct 2019 at 14:07

RxR said:
@Acme Yes. But I suppose you know that already. Of course, you can do a quick rough-level knock-out self test if you grab a copy of the AQ. Im happy to be proven wrong.

e: by my reckoning, there are 5 in the first 1 1/2 pages.

But back on topic.

I'm quite impressed.

RxR · 17 Oct 2019 at 14:13

Acme said:
I'm quite impressed.

You can correct me on it, of course. FTR my AQ score is 38.

I'd post a pic of me if I wasn't so decrepit.

V F · 17 Oct 2019 at 14:19

A lot of names I don't recognise there...

Deleted member 77746 · 17 Oct 2019 at 14:28

Come on you lot join in...

Feek · 17 Oct 2019 at 14:56

Just wondering why dogma is last as they're alphabetical.

Blackjack Davy · 17 Oct 2019 at 15:00

Armageus said:
Sadly most of them are probably no longer members and therefore pictures are being used without their consent?

Ii've got to say I only recognised the names of one or two the rest I'm like "who are these people?!"

Bluecube · 17 Oct 2019 at 15:13

Blackjack Davy said:
Ii've got to say I only recognised the names of one or two the rest I'm like "who are these people?!"

Who the heck’s Blackjack Davy?

Armageus · 17 Oct 2019 at 15:15

Feek said:
just using pictures which the owners have provided themselves.

Granting consent in the past however, doesn't immediately imply that consent is granted now (for essentially a different website)

I hate being "that guy", but if it was my photo on there, then I wouldn't be happy to find that someone had reused it without at least asking.
Having an "opt out" to have it removed after it was already added, isn't good enough.

Participant · 17 Oct 2019 at 15:20

Feek said:
Just wondering why dogma is last as they're alphabetical.

Probably to aggravate white knights.

Akagi · 17 Oct 2019 at 15:58

RxR said:
You can correct me on it, of course. FTR my AQ score is 38.

I'd post a pic of me if I wasn't so decrepit.

How do I check mine?

InvaderGIR · 17 Oct 2019 at 17:44

Armageus said:
Granting consent in the past however, doesn't immediately imply that consent is granted now (for essentially a different website)

I hate being "that guy", but if it was my photo on there, then I wouldn't be happy to find that someone had reused it without at least asking.
Having an "opt out" to have it removed after it was already added, isn't good enough.

Agree entirely. All OP has to do is apply some common sense and decency...which he clearly doesn't want to do despite it being easier to start the site completely fresh than to re-upload other people's pictures that haven't given consent for him to use, especially given he stated the old site doesn't even work any more so he's chosen to download / hunt out previously uploaded images to a different site and then rehost them himself. It's legally questionable and very much morally wrong, especially with about 80-90% of the members not being active and so being entirely unaware that their photos are being used for a purpose other than the one they intended (original site).

Feek · 17 Oct 2019 at 17:57

InvaderGIR said:
It's legally questionable and very much morally wrong, especially with about 80-90% of the members not being active and so being entirely unaware that their photos are being used for a purpose other than the one they intended (original site).

They uploaded their pictures to the OcUK Rogues Gallery. They were used on the OcUK Rogues Gallery for years and years until JamieDot stopped renewing the domain. They're now being used on an OcUK Rogues Gallery, I really don't see the problem. If the original site had continued to be renewed, they'd still be there.

I don't see that they're being used for any other purpose than originally intended. Legally questionable? Rubbish. Very much morally wrong? That's arguable but I don't see how the usage is any different to the original purpose.

InvaderGIR · 17 Oct 2019 at 17:59

You'd think an admin on here would have some common sense...seems it's entirely too uncommon. :rolleyes:

Armageus · 17 Oct 2019 at 18:01

Feek said:
They're now being used on an OcUK Rogues Gallery, I really don't see the problem. If the original site had continued to be renewed, they'd still be there.

Despite being identical in purpose, it's a new site, created by a different person.

If you gave rights to a newspaper to publish your photo but you randomly found your picture in a different newspaper years later without your permission, would you be happy?

Feek · 17 Oct 2019 at 18:02

InvaderGIR said:
You'd think an admin on here would have some common sense...seems it's entirely too uncommon.

I've made my opinion known - You tell me what you mean by legally questionable and address my previous comments and perhaps we can have a discussion rather than just you rolling your eyes at me.

/edit - I've raised this with the rest of the moderating team. We'll make a decision as to whether the old photos should be used or not and will come back to this thread.

godinman · 17 Oct 2019 at 18:12

Bit of nonsense here. It's an updated and rehosted website meant for images that people have agreed to share, there is no issue here and it's purely whining for whining sake. Get a life.

InvaderGIR · 17 Oct 2019 at 18:18

godinman said:
Bit of nonsense here. It's an updated and rehosted website meant for images that people have agreed to share, there is no issue here and it's purely whining for whining sake. Get a life.

It really isn't but sure, think of it like that if you want but you're really very wrong.

I can't be bothered to argue about reasons as clearly OP doesn't care and neither do admins (else the images would have been removed as soon as it was raised in the first page of this thread) or in effect, ocuk as the admins are representatives of the forum which is linked to the company (not just by the hosting).

Deleted member 77746 · 17 Oct 2019 at 18:29

InvaderGIR said:
It really isn't but sure, think of it like that if you want but you're really very wrong.

I can't be bothered to argue about reasons as clearly OP doesn't care and neither do admins (else the images would have been removed as soon as it was raised in the first page of this thread) or in effect, ocuk as the admins are representatives of the forum which is linked to the company (not just by the hosting).

Can I just refer to the way back machine. (https://archive.org) The way back machine collects data and this is where I got it from. If there was a legal stance I would have though this website would have been hit first. As you know this caches content for websites as history. Soon this site will also be cached. Can you comment on this?

Just for reference so people can see here it is;
https://web.archive.org/web/20140516185525/http://ocukrogues.co.uk/

Feek said:
Just wondering why dogma is last as they're alphabetical.

I had a _ at the beginning. I will change this to reflect the changes.