OcUK Rolling Road Day 16 @ PowerStation (Tewksbury) - Saturday November 16th 2013

Hi there


Here are my two graphs, one with remap, then the run without the remap with overlay against the remap results, take a look:-


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CSL beating power with the remap, and oh my does it feel like it, the car absolutely flies. When I took the map off, to do a re-run on the stock map, I took a few people out on the stock map to give the car plenty of time to adapt before going back on the dyno, as the remap had a good 200 mile run before going on the dyno to get the most out of.

So I did a few runs out and passenger rides and on the stock map I really missed the lost urgency sub 3000rpm and the absolute insane pull beyond 6000rpm, the remap is extremely noticable and you can see from the over-lay how much more power/torque the remap is making, particular once past 6000rpm, a whole 30BHP. NA cars don't normally benefit much from remaps, especially when it comes to peak power but the S54 engine in the E46 M3 clearly does, or the boys at Evolve really know their stuff and to see such improvements from a remap done via email is superb.

So to those who I took out, sorry the car was not with the remap, I apologise now for not giving you the full brutal experience. :D

I am absolutely over the moon with the car. :)

Things to do now:-
CSL Boot
Lightweight Braille battery
Maybe fit stock rear carpet from E46 to improve interior look and reduce rasp/noise inside, probably about 3-5kg back in, though the battery and boot is a good 30kg off.
Corner weighting
Rear beam/cage for harnesses.
Drive it like I stole it. :D
Oh and hope that Rich at PowerStation does not give me a deal I can't refuse on the package to get it to 430BHP NA. :eek:


P.S. The sudden dip around 3000rpm, is not the map due to how the car comes on cam and really pulls 3000-3500rpm was causing some wheel spin on both stock / remap runs, hence the dip in power / torque as its from getting out the thottle and blending it back in again. But 4000rpm upwards is absolutely spot on and you can see very impressive increases of 30BHP beyond 6000rpm right upto 8000rpm. :)
 
ScoobyDoo69 said:
Thanks for organising today Gibbo! :-)

AWD losses and heavy weight it still punches well ;)

I was quite gutted with my results tbh, as I'm sure my face showed lol :D

Today it made 390 and 340 torque.. down on the 393bhp and 360lb/ft it made last time at Powerstation and down on my figures from last week. Something not quite right - so the investigation will start soon!
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Yes mate, your car certainly had the edge for sure, when I was chasing, 3rd you pulled a car length away, 4th you pulled a car length away and 5th it was like 2 lengths. Thats extra horsepower and all that torque for you. Of course its all because I was 2 up and you only one. ;)

You car goes like a 400BHP car mate, without a doubt, the difference in results could just be dyno's, dyno operator and maybe between runs the dyno has being re-calibrated?

Still over the moon with my result, a great increase from a remap on a na car both on the road and dyno. Am sure you will sort yours. :)
 
adeyspec said:
thanks for sorting this out gibbo. was a good a good day out, all the lads enjoyed it, thanks for letting them run. would be good to see some pics and videos if anyone got them? happy with how my car ran, not far off what it was a few days ago though about 15degrees colder, so i think that would have helped.
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The guy with the stripped E36 M3 any chance you could get him to sign up and post some pictures of his interior as was interested in his harness setup and mounting points. :)
 
Simon said:
Who's was the yellow S2000 anyway? looks nice. I guess it didnt run?
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Dont think they were a member here, but it was indeed lovely, very nice looking with plenty of presence.

A white S2000 ran and it made 242BHP which I think is pretty bang on stock power is it not for them, as I can't remember from mine if they are 240BHP or 250PS?
 
Simon said:
9600rpm on the s2000?!
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Maybe just the dyno not alligned with the revs quite right maybe, like my run I think they took it upto 8300rpm, but dyno plot only goes upto 7800rpm, so probably just revs not quite perfectly alligned.

Or maybe it was modified in some way, no way of knowing unless the owner post up.
 
Simon said:
Oh and the skewed rpm readings will affect the torque measurements too as the dyno back calculates torque off engine power and RPM. 'Stretching' the rpm range will mean a lower torque value
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That probably explains why the torque on my M3 seems high then, even without the remap as the rpm on the printout is lower than the actual cars rpm a little. So in effect the opposite to what your saying as mine had the rpm range shortened giving a higher torque figure.
 
Clarkey said:
Impressive power regardless for a motor without cams or CSL airbox.
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Well I wanted the remap mainly for the rev matching which is absolutely brilliant and to stop getting codes from cats and SAP delete. I never expected that much of a gain from a remap on an NA.

But Evolve come highly recommend by people world wide, great considering they are British based for BMW tuning, so went with it.

When I loaded the map on the most noticeable change were flat spots in 2500-3500rpm range were cured and there was more urgency. But beyond 6000rpm it pull way harder and the power never seem to fall off as before, just pulled harder to redline and well dyno backs up what I felt. :)

So guess the S54 engine is one of those which takes well to a remap or BMW held it back on purpose as they had CSL model planned all along. To be honest I can't see a CSL air box giving me any more power now or be minimal, noise however would be epic. I know ones on cams making 380ish but lot of money for little gains which effect drivability in a negative way.
 
MilanoChris said:
That's the thing now mate, any more power is going to cost £££, is it really worth it? Because I think you are near the limit NA without spending silly money and any upgrades now will not be noticed on track. Focus on suspension, brakes and such like IMO.
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Nope, leaving as is, the remap has woken the car up, now focus on getting weight down further within reason and other finishing touches.

End of the day if I get it too 1300kg, that's 282BHP per tonne, more than enough for track work to be very handy. :)
 
Hi there

Well I am back at Powerstation on 7th December, not for a power-run but to get the corner weighting and alignment finally done.

Does anyone know a good UK stockist for Braille batteries? Might as well throw in a lightweight battery whilst I am at it. :)
 
Blackhawk47 said:
New meet on dec 7th then? How far is power station from ocuk anyway?
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Fine by me, be good to meet with any who missed out and have a catch up.

If anyone wants a power run let me know so I can ask if they can fit say maybe 3-5 cars in for power runs.
 
Blackhawk47 said:
Any idea how much it would be per car, if there are far less cars running?
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Am sure for being such regulars they would do £35.

I shall ask tomorrow for pricing along with ecutek for Chris to cure his turbo surge, but if memory serves me right I think ecutek is a set price, about £500
 
Will said:
If my exhaust gets made up by milltek and delivered by 9th December (which it should do) then I may see if powerstation can fit it that day...so might see a few folk there if others are getting work done as well.
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This is 7th mate, not 9th. ;)
 
ianh said:
Gibbo - I'd be up for the 7th too, getting my new exhaust fitted on the 2nd and was going to get a Dyno run done there anyway sometime that week!
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Ok I shall ring and ask tomorrow if they can do around 5 power runs that day along with maybe a remap of an EVO, shall report back with prices etc.
 
Hi there


Right Saturday 7th December is fine for both power runs and mapping within reason.

Ideally no more than 5 power runs - £35 a run, usual discounted rate.

EVO 9 Ecutek remap - £550 +VAT if you don't have an Ecutek license all in. If you have a license then its £120 +VAT per hour on the dyno, the mapping takes 1-2hrs.
 
ianh said:
Gibbo - Can you stick me down as a runner please, Ta Dude!
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Hi there

So OK so far running on December 7th we have:-

1. IanH - Mondeo
2. Valkia - Accord
3. Andrew Moore - Civic Type R
4. Deant77 - S3
5. Adeyspec - R5 GT
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Any others let me know, it is £35 a run, be at Powerstation for 9:30am - 11:00am :)
 
Right so who is coming next Saturday then?

Aiming to get there for 9:30am for my corner weighting session. Power runs are fine at £35 each I believe, so anyone coming for a power run let me know. :)
 
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