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OcUK RX5700 and RX5700XT review thread

Panos said:
As soon as the Anniversary edition arrives, I will run thorough tests and post settings and results with the blower cooler. :)


Unfortunately the German website testing undervolting, uses a 1950X. Not the best CPU to push the scores :( However it shows 13% higher score on Timespy by mild undervolting.

And on same setup the 2070S doing 10000 GPU score, while mild undervolted blower 5700X does 9861. And that's timespy. A benchmark optimized for Pascal DX12 execution pipeline.
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Non super 2070’s can hit 10000 in timespy, I’d want at least 11500 from the 2070 super! Whether I get that is another matter.
 
EastCoastHandle said:
This is overclocking results using a watercooled 5700XT at 2100Mhz, I think
https://www.tomshw.de/2019/07/08/am...los-auf-21-ghz-uebertaktet-wasser-sei-dank/2/

Hey Nvidia, this wasn't suppose to happen when you released the 2070 Super using a game that favors your hardware to rain on AMD parade. All you did was was clean the streets and water the flowers. :eek:
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:D muahahahahaha :D

Marine-RX179 said:
If anyone get afford £475~£500, there's no reason not to get the 2070S over the 5700XT (unless someone was minority like me that actually use VRR/Freesync over HDMI on a large TV); but for the 2060S I don't see the reasoning of getting it over the 5700XT considering it is decisively slower, unless people absolutely have to get the card right now and cannot stand the blower cooler, and willing to sacrifice performance for better cooling. Also although both cards are supposed to be same price, like most Nvidia releases they probably end-up being £30~£60 higher in price than the price quoted, except the Nvidia FE version sold by Nvidia directly with possibly limited supply.
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5700XT Anniversary Edition, is just € 398,76 +VAT (country depending) and the normal 5700XT € 354,35 + VAT (country depending).
That makes the AE £412 (as much paid this morning for it), and the 5700XT ~£380 WITH UK VAT.

Powercolor is the only one sticking to AMD MSRP here at £379.99.
https://www.overclockers.co.uk/pc-c.../amd/radeon-rx-5700-xt-series?sPage=1&sSort=3

A non crippled 2070 (aka A chip) goes for >+£100 atm.
 
Martini1991 said:
If this review had ten games it'd be interesting
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I too wanted to see more games. No doubt about it. However, something occurred to me. Something that I hadn't thought about before.
Last time ATI released the 5700 series it was a low end tier products.
We know that AMD is release a 5800 series. And it's rumored that the 5900 series is the Navi21.

So, it makes sense that one game was benched because AMD just sandbagged the heck out of us.
We've been comparing a low end 5700 XT to Nvidia's high end, just refresh part. :eek: (Speculating...of course)
 
Brazo said:
Non super 2070’s can hit 10000 in timespy, I’d want at least 11500 from the 2070 super! Whether I get that is another matter.
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On the review I quoted with the 5700XT with UV, the 2070S does 10K because reviewer is using 1950X. So have to use comparable values from same review.
If we have an undervolting 5700XT with a 9900K sure, we could compare multiple reviewer values.
However the same can be said using X570 platform, because many times that 4fps difference is gained by moving from pcie-3 to pcie-4.
 
EastCoastHandle said:
I too wanted to see more games. No doubt about it. However, something occurred to me. Something that I hadn't thought about before.
Last time ATI released the 5700 series it was a low end tier products.
We know that AMD is release a 5800 series. And it's rumored that the 5900 series is the Navi21.

So, it makes sense that one game was benched because AMD just sandbagged the heck out of us.
We've been comparing a low end 5700 XT to Nvidia's high end, just refresh part. :eek: (Speculating...of course)
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The 5700XT is mid range
AMD are gouging not sand bagging
 
EastCoastHandle said:
I too wanted to see more games. No doubt about it. However, something occurred to me. Something that I hadn't thought about before.
Last time ATI released the 5700 series it was a low end tier products.
We know that AMD is release a 5800 series. And it's rumored that the 5900 series is the Navi21.

So, it makes sense that one game was benched because AMD just sandbagged the heck out of us.
We've been comparing a low end 5700 XT to Nvidia's high end, just refresh part. :eek: (Speculating...of course)
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If I remember correctly on a video from Jay2Cents last week, he slipped that 5800 and better cards are due January 2020 at CES.
You see 5700XT feels like the repeat tactic of Zen 1. Put out a good GPU competing with the high end (lets not forget this one is in par to 1080ti with bit undervolting), storm next year with monstrocities like the 5800, similarly to Zen 2, and then having the new GCN-less architecture on round 3.
Also we shouldn't forget this chip was supposed to be on the market last October, if AMD didn't had the design issues. If it had come out then, with the initial RTX series launch, it would be culling anything bellow the RTX2080 as it does now. Because lets all be honest the 2070S is just a rebranded 2080.
 
Panos said:
If I remember correctly on a video from Jay2Cents last week, he slipped that 5800 and better cards are due January 2020 at CES.
You see 5700XT feels like the repeat tactic of Zen 1. Put out a good GPU competing with the high end (lets not forget this one is in par to 1080ti with bit undervolting), storm next year with monstrocities like the 5800, similarly to Zen 2, and then having the new GCN-less architecture on round 3.
Also we shouldn't forget this chip was supposed to be on the market last October, if AMD didn't had the design issues. If it had come out then, with the initial RTX series launch, it would be culling anything bellow the RTX2080 as it does now. Because lets all be honest the 2070S is just a rebranded 2080.
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The 5700XT isn't even close to what Ryzen 1 was.
 
EastCoastHandle said:




This is overclocking results using a watercooled 5700XT at 2100Mhz, I think
https://www.tomshw.de/2019/07/08/am...los-auf-21-ghz-uebertaktet-wasser-sei-dank/2/

Hey Nvidia, this wasn't suppose to happen when you released the 2070 Super using a game that favors your hardware to rain on AMD parade. All you did was was clean the streets and water the flowers. :eek:
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All that aggravation of installing and maintaining a water cooling loop for lousy 6 fps. A good reminder why I'm switching back to classic HSF's on my next build.
 
We all know that once AIBs release various 5700XT cooling solutions it will be on par if not better then Nvidia' OEM 2070S. 2070S @ £475 is simply way to high.
But Nvidia will wait 1st to see and get some to buy at that price before it drops. But We all know the price will drop once AIBs release their cards.
And all from a lonely low end 5700XT, ouch.


Freddie1980 said:
All that aggravation of installing and maintaining a water cooling loop for lousy 6 fps. A good reminder why I'm switching back to classic HSF's on my next build.
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Oh, this is not the Anniversary Edition...ouch again.
 
Martini1991 said:
Seems like the 5700XT is locked to 2100 RPM fan.

That's going to hamper things lol.
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Possibly driver issue.

AMD never seem to able to things like this right at launch...all that effort in getting the product pricing and positioning right at launch, they have to go muck it up with issue like this.

I was utterly confused how the Navi's blower cooler can do so poorly, when even my 290x with 290W TDP with blower cooler could run cooler than that. Thought it was may be they didn't not include vapor chamber for these cooler, but turns out they do have them.
 
People are missing a point of these cards. With bitcoin slowly creeping up and other crypto likely to follow, the mining craze could very well kick off again in the coming months. Reference cooling is probably good enough for that.
Buy them now before £500+ :p.
I reckon there are a few here secretly buying one or two to test out already.
 
Martini1991 said:
2070 Super comes with games.

What's the 5700XT come with?
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A £100 lower price tag (and slower performance) :p

5700XT definitely cannot compete with the 2070S at the moment with at their current state with the cooler, but once AIB cards with customer coolers arrive there is a chance that it might get comparable to 2070S performance, at around 80% of the price.
 
shankly1985 said:
Holly Molly Far Cry 5 106 fps at 1440p my VEGA gets 75FPS
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It's getting some good results & performing a bit better than I was expecting when compared to the 14nm Vega cards. It slots in behind the VII but it does pull out some wins against that, One of the Digital Foundry reviews mentioned some hitching issues but that was too be expected, we know the driver support will need fine tuning, What we've seen so far looks pretty good, I'm looking forward to seeing what the high end replacement can do, it's a shame it's so far away though.
 
nashathedog said:
It's getting some good results & performing a bit better than I was expecting when compared to the 14nm Vega cards.
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I think we'll get a good 5ish% perf bump with the next few drivers and another bump with AiB cooling too so should be nice :)

I realllllllly want one, but I'll have to slap my own aftermarket cooling on at some point if I do! :D

Tweaked V56 performs like a *champ* though!!
 
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