OcUK RX6500XT review thread

[humbug]

Is this not a good shout for a Nvidia gpu in that price range? beats the competition easily.

30% faster and 2gb more VRAM, also no need for a pcie gen 4.0 system.

My basket at OcUK:

• 1 x Palit GeForce GTX 1660 StormX 6144MB GDDR5 PCI-Express Graphics Card (SKU: GX-04R-PL) = £199.99

Total: £209.89 (includes delivery: £9.90)​

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Its 13% not 30% faster but you're right its a half decent card, heavily discounted and limited stock anywhere, it has not been anywhere near £200 until now.

 

[muon]

Well buy a sub £200 GPU from Nvidia, oh wait.... they wont sell you anything for less than £300.

You are right the 6500 XT is so good (a repurposed laptop graphics chip) that it's holding value really well, well below MSRP.

The RTX 3050 cards are disappearing and largely out of stock and so prices going up as they approach EoL from the looks of things.

Also you can buy an RTX 2060 (52% better than 6500XT) for £212 delivered. Been in stock for nearly 2 weeks now and still not shifting. So nvidia do have a better offering.

 

[humbug]

You are right the 6500 XT is so good (a repurposed laptop graphics chip) that it's holding value really well, well below MSRP.

The RTX 3050 cards are disappearing and largely out of stock and so prices going up as they approach EoL from the looks of things.

Also you can buy an RTX 2060 (52% better than 6500XT) for £212 delivered. Been in stock for nearly 2 weeks now and still not shifting. So nvidia do have a better offering.

Blame reviewers telling people its a good buy at £400.

 

[muon]

Blame reviewers telling people its a good buy at £400.

No one is saying that. Stop making stuff up.

The 6500 XT is and was a terrible card for the money. A money grab like I posted earlier. It had nothing to do with the costs of what is feasible as people claimed.

 

[humbug]

No one is saying that. Stop making stuff up.

The 6500 XT is and was a terrible card for the money. A money grab like I posted earlier. It had nothing to do with the costs of what is feasible as people claimed.

Hardware Unboxed did.

If its a money grab then so is the A380? or the RTX 3050 with its fake MSRP, its still £300 and that's the cheapest its ever been.

 

[muon]

Hardware Unboxed did.

If its a money grab then so is the A380? or the RTX 3050 with its fake MSRP, its still £300 and that's the cheapest its ever been.

No they haven't. They always recommend the RX 6600. They have been since the early part of this year where the card dropped in price significantly. I called you out this on before already and yet you keep spreading nonsense.

The only time anyone would have recommended the 3050 would have been at launch where a $250 RTX 3050 made the RX 6500 XT at $200 completely laughable.

It's almost like you have some kind of agenda continuously spreading lies.

 

[ASMB]

I get that the average review of the 6500xt looks at the performance in modern games. I also get that the majority of gamers would have been much better buying the 2060 at its recent price of £212. However, the reviews do take away from the fact that the 6500xt can game at 1440p 60fps in some games and the 6500xt makes sense in those situations. I have been playing LOTRO and ESO at 1440p on a 6500xt this morning. In LOTRO the power draw was often under 30watts running around doing festival events in the Shire. In ESO I used max settings, 1440p and tried FSR, it mostly stayed at the 60fps I capped it at, only dipping in the high 50s, power usage was around 70watts. I doubt that you will get the same power usage from a 580 that some of the reviewers say buy instead of a 6500xt.

 

[humbug]

I get that the average review of the 6500xt looks at the performance in modern games. I also get that the majority of gamers would have been much better buying the 2060 at its recent price of £212. However, the reviews do take away from the fact that the 6500xt can game at 1440p 60fps in some games and the 6500xt makes sense in those situations. I have been playing LOTRO and ESO at 1440p on a 6500xt this morning. In LOTRO the power draw was often under 30watts running around doing festival events in the Shire. In ESO I used max settings, 1440p and tried FSR, it mostly stated at the 60fps I capped it at, only dipping in the high 50s, power usage was around 70watts. I doubt that you will get the same power usage from a 580 that some of the reviewers say buy instead of a 6500xt.

The problem for these reviewers isn't the GPU, they pretend it is but its not, its the price. Its a perfectly capable GPU if you don't try to treat it like a maximum settings AAA 60hz+ sort of GPU.

And i agree, MSRP $199, about £190 at todays exchange rate with VAT, it is, or was, a bit steep, IMO $159, about £150 would have been more reasonable for what it is.
Today you can get one for £150, This one, at the time of writing. You even get 3, probably older, games with it. Not bad, at least the ##### thing works, which is a lot more than can be said for the GPU some of these same reviewer are trying to push.

And that's the thing, yes the GTX 1660 is a better GPU, but it is more expensive, the cheapest one i could find is £200 and there are very few in stock globally. The RTX 2060, cheapest one of those i can see here is £270, that's near twice as much as the 6500XT is now, its too expensive for what that is.

At the time there was nothing for $199, it took a few weeks and crept up to £220 and they all jumped on it "SEE, I TOLD YOU, FAKE MSRP, AMD BAD" it was not long after that until they started appearing under $200, meanwhile the $250 MSRP 3050 has never been anywhere near that, they are still $100 more than that now and at the times were normally $450 "oh but its worth up to $400" no it ###### isn't, are you crazy??? @muon I'll dig out the video and this time save it in my web browser if you try telling me THAT never happened.

I'll say this for Hardware Unboxed, they are not trying to gloss over the A380, not like Linus, which i'm not surprised about, but even Steve Burke, which i'm really disappointed about.

There really is no such thing as a bad GPU, only a bad price, and the 6500XT was badly priced, but it was at the time the only sub $200 GPU, which is why Steve Walton was so keen on pushing 6 year old used GPU for about the same money that aren't really any better, so fixated on hating it he convinced himself he didn't look like a clown doing that and at the same time excusing $400 for the 3050 as a symptom of GPU inflation, really???? so on the one hang you're talking some sense while on the other you don't think AMD are effected by that same inflation.

As for the A380, that's an $89.99 GPU. At that, yeah, buy it as curiosity item, not as a primary GPU. Change my mind.

 

[muon]

Like I previously highlighted in your fanboy thread below below where the discussion moved onto the same topic

These guys have no idea what they are talking about.

Every thread you find humbug he is spreading lies. Like the made up efficiency of zen 3 that he still hasnt backed up but dodges every way humanly possible :cool:

forums.overclockers.co.uk

you make stuff up.

Go dig out your link where HUB suggest buying a $400 3050 over the RX 6600.

There is a reason the RX 6500 XT is tanking in price. It is a terrible card only worth it for a small niche of users.

 

[humbug]

Like I previously highlighted in your fanboy thread below below where the discussion moved onto the same topic

These guys have no idea what they are talking about.

Every thread you find humbug he is spreading lies. Like the made up efficiency of zen 3 that he still hasnt backed up but dodges every way humanly possible :cool:

forums.overclockers.co.uk

you make stuff up.

Go dig out your link where HUB suggest buying a $400 3050 over the RX 6600.

There is a reason the RX 6500 XT is tanking in price. It is a terrible card only worth it for a small niche of users.

We Strongly believe needs to be priced around $370 to be a great deal and really the go to option for PC gamers. At that price it would be unbeatable. on the used market the 1660 Super is going for around £470, so based on that reality the 3050 is probably going to be around $500, if that's the case then you're best off buying the RX 6600.....
Having said all of that i do thing the RTX 3050 at $500 is a better investment than the 6500XT at £270 despite the fact that we don't recommend you by either at those prices.

RTX 3050, great deal at $370, the go to option for gamers. The RX 6600 was at the time $350, on the shelves, and its a much faster card.

The RTX 3050 is better value at $500 than the RX 6500 is at $270, what sort of nonsensical crap is that? It quite often was $500! Really, Steve?

We think the RX 6500XT is really going to struggle even with very low quality setting in the next couple of years.

At very low quality settings? BS

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[humbug]

There have been a couple who have made the point that if its a cheap card its worth buying. Because its the cheapest available card.
-Tim

I dispute that because its not a good product, If there was no second hand market and it was all you had it doesn't make it a good product, its simply that's all there is.
-Steve Walton

Lets see how long it takes him to change the tune on that when it comes to the A380.

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[muon]

So as I said you are pointing to the launch where the price is $250... Got anything more recent?

Also that sentence clearly says it is better value then the 1660 super at the time of launch if it was lower than the really high prices it was settling at after launch stock.

The sentence immediately said you are better off buying the RX 6600. And with the RX 6600 dropping since the time time of that video, it has always been the better buy.

You are so desperate that you are pulling a single sentence in january at the time of launch as if that's the only thing they have said.

 

[humbug]

So as I said you are pointing to the launch where the price is $250... Got anything more recent?

It was never $250, it still isn't, no where near, and that has nothing to do with Steve Walton promoting it for $370, like an Nvidia paid shill.

Also, "At $500 the 3050 better value than the RX 6500XT at $270"

The 3050 quite often was $500 and he cited a few 6500XT's at $270.

really?

 

[muon]

It was never $250, it still isn't, no where near, and that has nothing to do with Steve Walton promoting it for $370, like an Nvidia paid shill.

Jeez, he said at $370 it would be a better buy than the next best card at that performance which is the 1660 super. In fact he then says actually you should probably buy the RX 6600 if the price is anything above that (which he thought it likely would be). Nvidia shill!

It also was $250 for launch stock. Even in the UK it was £239 for launch stock.

If you consider everything he says as a whole. He says you shouldn't really buy either at the eventual prevailing prices. Also as he noted at the time the 6500 XT came out when most boards were still PCI-E 3.0 even for Ryzen.

It's also funny you have to go so far back to find sentences to skew out of context, to try and make the 6500 XT sound good.

 

[humbug]

Jeez, he said at $370 it would be a better buy than the next best card at that performance which is the 1660 super. In fact he then says actually you should probably buy the RX 6600 if the price is anything above that (which he thought it likely would be). Nvidia shill!

It also was $250 for launch stock. Even in the UK it was £239 for launch stock.

If you consider everything he says as a whole. He says you shouldn't really buy either at the eventual prevailing prices. Also as he noted at the time the 6500 XT came out when most boards were still PCI-E 3.0 even for Ryzen.

It's also funny you have to go so far back to find sentences to skew out of context, to try and make the 6500 XT sound good.

The words he used were.

a great deal at $370, the go to option for gamers

Do you agree with that?

The RX 6600 was always cheaper than that and a far better GPU. Just not the "Go to option for gamers" eh?

Its promotional wording, like a ##### advert, end of/

 

[muon]

Say his entire sentence. He said it is unbeatable in the current market. That was factually accurate with their data. This was before the RX 6600 then rapidly dropped in price and the crypto bubble burst.

 

[humbug]

Say his entire sentence. He said it is unbeatable in the current market. That was factually accurate with their data.

It was beaten, categorically in that market. So was it the go to option for gamers or not? Was it a great deal? Answer that.

 

[muon]

It was beaten, categorically in that market. So was it the go to option for gamers or not? Was it a great deal? Answer that.

They said it was unbeatable. Not that is was a great deal. So don't ask me questions that are slanted to your agenda.

 

[humbug]

Say his entire sentence. He said it is unbeatable in the current market. That was factually accurate with their data. This was before the RX 6600 then rapidly dropped in price and the crypto bubble burst.

And there is the lie, the RX 6600 was never $560.

Not unless you're picking out the most expensive one you can find.

Someone posted a chart of average RX 6600 prices at the date of the review.

Pray i don't find it because with that slide i'm calling him a flat out liar, and please do Email this to him. I'm more than happy to have a conversation with him.

 

[muon]

And there is the lie, the RX 6600 was never $560.

Not unless you're picking out the most expensive one you can find.

Someone posted a chart of average RX 6600 prices at the date of the review.

Pray i don't find it because with that slide i'm calling him a flat out liar and please do Email that to him.

Lol, wow. You are so biased. They would have used what data they had at the time.

As I posted in the other post I gave to you in July, unlike you who clearly has a single agenda

These guys have no idea what they are talking about.

Every thread you find humbug he is spreading lies. Like the made up efficiency of zen 3 that he still hasnt backed up but dodges every way humanly possible :cool:

forums.overclockers.co.uk

they update their recommendation on data updates. The cryto bubble was crashing then and the first RX 6600 offer even on this website came after these reviews would have been done. The average would have been higher than that.