OcUK RX9070 Series Review Thread

[Martini1991]

XT basically an xtx with better up scaling.

Apart from the plethora of games where it's not of course.

 

[jonww74]

Edit : actually the MSRP isn't in stock, it just says it is
The £569 9070 stock is though

I picked up a 9070 for £525. Compared to an mrsp XT it's not my first choice but there's none available now. So compared to the £600+ options it seems okay. Certainly better than a 5070 I'd say.

Can't say I'm as excited for it but my wallet seems happier

 

[humbug]

the price of the 5070 at basically same price of the 9070 will be interesting. will many just opt for slightly slower performance but a easier life with better software nvidia side.

My thinking... or rather cope is probably more accurate..... is that AMD look at the reaction to these GPU's and realise they can actually sell them in very high volume, gain market share and some positive mindshare if they actually do make them available from $599.99, then they just put the next batches in to the supply chain at that price and do away with this limited rebait thing.
On top that some people might not know that sometimes at least cutdown cards are salvaged RMA cards, if the core is good on RMA'd cards they pull the core off and make a new cut down GPU out of it, first batch cutdown cores are usually cores with defects but once they build up an RMA inventory those are usually resold as cutdown cards, good cores on RAM cards don't go to waste, they don't throw them in the bin if there is nothing wrong with it.

So when they have more 9070 inventory then they might make them $499, this is my cope....

 

[Martini1991]

My thinking... or rather cope is probably more accurate..... is that AMD look at the reaction to these GPU's and realise they can actually sell them in very high volume, gain market share and some positive mindshare if they actually do make them available from $599.99, then they just put the next batches in to the supply chain at that price and do away with this limited rebait thing.
On top that some people might not know that sometimes at least cutdown cards are salvaged RMA cards, if the core is good on RMA'd cards they pull the core off and make a new cut down GPU out of it, first batch cutdown cores are usually cores with defects but once they build up an RMA inventory those are usually resold as cutdown cards, good cores on RAM cards don't go to waste, they don't throw them in the bin if there is nothing wrong with it.

So when they have more 9070 inventory then they might make them $499, this is my cope....

Nvidia will come back swinging next generation and in 4 years time we'll be forgetting about any hype this generation had for AMD and we'll be asking how they can increase their market share from 8%

 

[humbug]

Nvidia will come back swinging next generation and in 4 years time we'll be forgetting about any hype this generation had for AMD and we'll be asking how they can increase their market share from 8%

Two choices, try or give up, i don't want them to give up, neither do you.

 

[Martini1991]

Two choices, try or give up, i don't want them to give up, neither do you.

I don't consider what they've done with the 9070XT/9070 good enough to change things.

I mean, look at the actual prices now the MSRP stuff has disappeared.

AMD are just doing exactly the same as Nvidia really

 

[Raelgun]

 

[humbug]

I don't consider what they've done with the 9070XT/9070 good enough to change things.

I mean, look at the actual prices now the MSRP stuff has disappeared.

AMD are just doing exactly the same as Nvidia really

for the 9070 XT i think it has, the 9070 not so much, but there is time for that to become great too.

I would call this launch a massive success, i think right now AMD are looking at the data and the reception socked at how well its gone, that will put some much needed enthusiasm in to them, they haven't had a launch that went as well as this in decades if EVER.
That should make them rethink strategy, the 9070 XT is a good GPU at a reasonable price. something like the Sapphire Pulse and its peers need to be the £570 it started at today for the life of the generation, if they can do that i think there is more than hope....

 

[Martini1991]

for the 9070 XT i think it has, the 9070 not so much, but there is time for that to become great too.

I would call this launch a massive success, i think right now AMD are looking at the data and the reception socked at how well its gone, that will put some much needed enthusiasm in to them, they haven't had a launch that went as well as this in decades if EVER.
That should make them rethink strategy, the 9070 XT is a good GPU at a reasonable price. something like the Sapphire Pulse and its peers need to be the £570 it started at today for the life of the generation, if they can do that i think there is more than hope....

We'll agree to disagree about the overall arc of your post.

The thing is, if this launch does nothing in the grand scheme of things, you will have the opinion that even with AMD tried they couldn't sell.

Whereas I have the opinion it won't make a difference because it's only better than already hilariously poor offerings, and doesn't go close to far enough to change things.

 

[humbug]

We'll agree to disagree about the overall arc of your post.

The thing is, if this launch does nothing in the grand scheme of things, you will have the opinion that even with AMD tried they couldn't sell.

Whereas I have the opinion it won't make a difference because it's only better than already hilariously poor offerings, and doesn't go close to far enough to change things.

They did sell, Gibbo had 1000's of 9070 XT's and i bet almost all of them if not all of them will have sold out by the end of the day.

They tried and they sold, i can see that....

 

[McPhee]

I picked up a 9070 for £525. Compared to an mrsp XT it's not my first choice but there's none available now. So compared to the £600+ options it seems okay. Certainly better than a 5070 I'd say.

Can't say I'm as excited for it but my wallet seems happier

The 9070 at £525 is better value (cost per frame) than the 9070 XT at £630.

 

[Martini1991]

They did sell, Gibbo had 1000's of 9070 XT's and i bet almost all of them if not all of them will have sold out by the end of the day.

They tried and they sold, i can see that...

A landscape isn't formed over a day (Which is exactly why I said grand scheme)
I can also see a load of cards have sold to be resold at profit as well.

 

[McPhee]

They did sell, Gibbo had 1000's of 9070 XT's and i bet almost all of them if not all of them will have sold out by the end of the day.

They tried and they sold, i can see that....

I'm not so sure about that. I think what's happened today is a limited amount of MSRP stock has been made available, and then there's been a bit of panic buying of more expensive cards as soon as the MSRP stock has sold.

It's worth bearing in mind that more MSRP drops are planned. And only a small fraction of their "MSRP" card stock was to be sold at MSRP. The full price stock hasn't even been touched yet.

 

[Martini1991]

I'm not so sure about that. I think what's happened today is a limited amount of MSRP stock has been made available, and then there's been a bit of panic buying of more expensive cards as soon as the MSRP stock has sold.

It's worth bearing in mind that more MSRP drops are planned. And only a small fraction of their "MSRP" card stock was to be sold at MSRP. The full price stock hasn't even been touched yet.

They have sold out of the higher priced stock as well though
I saw £800 cards sell

Which is just bonkers as you could have had a superior 7900XTX for like a year at that point for that price

I mean, I still think people are drinking the kool aid and just gaslighting all over the place, but isn't that why we're in the position we are in with flagships costing 3K lol

 

[humbug]

I'm not so sure about that. I think what's happened today is a limited amount of MSRP stock has been made available, and then there's been a bit of panic buying of more expensive cards as soon as the MSRP stock has sold.

It's worth bearing in mind that more MSRP drops are planned. And only a small fraction of their "MSRP" card stock was to be sold at MSRP. The full price stock hasn't even been touched yet.

The button on your top left still takes me to an endless Cloudflare waiting room loop so there are still a huge number trying 5 hours after they went on sale.

That should tell you how much demand there is and how hard people are trying.

 

[Martini1991]

The button on your top left still takes me to an endless Cloudflare waiting room loop so there are still a huge number trying 5 hours after they went on sale.

That should tell you how much demand there is and how hard people are trying.

Every other site worked

If you think that what happened was all down to genuine customers demand then you're ignoring the obvious bot sales that happened

And OCUK site works now too

I think AMD have had better value products to the opposition over the years and it's done nothing

Hell the 6900XT raster was basically amongst the absolute best and that was only two generations ago lol

Think the 7800XT offered amongst the absolute best price/performance at the time and it did nothing either lol

 

[CAT-THE-FIFTH]

That should make them rethink strategy, the 9070 XT is a good GPU at a reasonable price. something like the Sapphire Pulse and its peers need to be the £570 it started at today for the life of the generation, if they can do that i think there is more than hope....

The big issue is the lack of an RRP reference card and its clear like with Nvidia,most of the AIB partners wanted to make tarted up models which won't hit RRP.

The Sapphire RX9070 Pulse and Powercolor RX9070/RX9070XT Reaper are the only cards which seem to be built to target a price under £600 IMHO.

If you look at how efficient the RX9070 is,AMD and its partners could easily have easily designed a compact reference board for that model.

 

[humbug]

Every other site worked

If you think that what happened was all down to genuine customers demand then you're ignoring the obvious bot sales that happened

And OCUK site works now too

I think AMD have had better value products to the opposition over the years and it's done nothing

Hell the 6900XT raster was basically amongst the absolute best and that was only two generations ago lol

Think the 7800XT offered amongst the absolute best price/performance at the time and it did nothing either lol

I just checked the 2 main competitors to OCUK, one of them is actually the UK supply chain, all the XT's are sold out, every single one of them, gone.....

 

[McPhee]

They have sold out of the higher priced stock as well though
I saw £800 cards sell

Which is just bonkers as you could have had a superior 7900XTX for like a year at that point for that price

I mean, I still think people are drinking the kool aid and just gaslighting all over the place, but isn't that why we're in the position we are in with flagships costing 3K lol

Of course they've sold out of more expensive cards too. There were plenty of people on here posting about how they couldn't get an MSRP card & have bought a more expensive one. But only a fraction of cheaper cards were allocated for sale at MSRP.

 

[Martini1991]

I just checked the 2 main competitors to OCUK, one of them is actually the UK supply chain, all the XT's are sold out, every single one of them, gone.....

I think OCUK had the most stock

Other competitors said they had limited stock.

I mean, it makes no difference, I'm not buying either vendors cards at the moment.

I think the current state of play in the GPU space is diabolical and I'm not going to cope myself into thinking otherwise