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shankly1985 said:
I also have nothing against some of nvidia there hardware is quality. But I do disagree with a lot there business practices. I feel they got off very lightly with titanx and so soon 980ti pricing, I would be super mad if I bought titanx.
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While not in any way supporting nVidia's business practises the TitanX is a card for those who have to have the best no matter the value of it - if someone bought the TX and then was super mad about the 980ti then they probably shouldn't be buying those kind of cards :P

I have no problem with people supporting one company or the other - I can see very valid reasons why people wouldn't touch nVidia with a barge pole - I do wish some people wouldn't just read an AMD PR piece and run to the forums to stick it to nVidia on that basis when at a technical level half the time AMD's PR pieces are hilariously laughable or even bold face lies.

EDIT: That isn't a reflection on the current issues however - but at the same time I'd be cautious writing nVidia off (even though it does not look good) until we actually need these features - as I mentioned they managed to find a way to get some level of pre-emption working in regard to CUDA related stuff on hardware that shouldn't even support it so who knows how things might shape up.
 
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Rroff said:
While not in any way supporting nVidia's business practises the TitanX is a card for those who have to have the best no matter the value of it - if someone bought the TX and then was super mad about the 980ti then they probably shouldn't be buying those kind of cards :P

I have no problem with people supporting one company or the other - I can see very valid reasons why people wouldn't touch nVidia with a barge pole - I do wish some people wouldn't just read an AMD PR piece and run to the forums to stick it to nVidia on that basis when at a technical level half the time AMD's PR pieces are hilariously laughable or even bold face lies.

EDIT: That isn't a reflection on the current issues however - but at the same time I'd be cautious writing nVidia off (even though it does not look good) until we actually need these features - as I mentioned they managed to find a way to get some level of pre-emption working in regard to CUDA related stuff on hardware that shouldn't even support it so who knows how things might shape up.
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My issue with the titanx is the fact that GPU is a premium card. Anyone who buys that is listed as a premium nvidia user. I can except £1000 on a GPU no issues with people spending that money. The problem I have is how fast they released the 980ti and it's performance against the big titanx, for half the price you pretty much got the titanx.

Now had nvidia done what they did with the original titan and it's long time being top I be fine with that. But we talking a couple months here.

I don't care how much money you have I would feel sick knowing you not even the premium quality anymore and being matched against a GPU that is half what you paid.

Anyway that is only part of the story I could go on and on. But let's not forget these are my issue I have against them feel free to agree or disagree.
 
Being an AMD user I'm happy and having VR on my phone I freaking cant wait! lol.
Going to get the HTC Vive as soon as its available this year. VR can make even the most boring of 2D games incredible from my experience.
I love horror movies so I'm excited to try some horror games in VR and the Vive with its motion controls and full body movement tracking looks awesome.
 
AthlonXP1800 said:
Well Thief was the first mantle game title used Async compute to unleashed full power of 290X with 352 commands (44 CU x 8 ACE) but after Nvidia DirectX 11 wonder driver, GTX 780 Ti outperformed 290X easily. A 980 Ti is over twice performance put 290X to shame in Thief's mantle async compute.
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Thief has Nvidia PhysX which is a huge bottle neck to both GPU's
 
PhysX in thief is CPU based. Any game that uses CPU PhysX AMD can use. Its the GPU setting that is disabled. They is quite a lot of CPU based PhysX games.
 
Nvidia CPU PhysX is Open Source but all it does it cripple performance for no reason that i can see ^^^^

shankly1985 said:
My issue with the titanx is the fact that GPU is a premium card. Anyone who buys that is listed as a premium nvidia user. I can except £1000 on a GPU no issues with people spending that money. The problem I have is how fast they released the 980ti and it's performance against the big titanx, for half the price you pretty much got the titanx.

Now had nvidia done what they did with the original titan and it's long time being top I be fine with that. But we talking a couple months here.

I don't care how much money you have I would feel sick knowing you not even the premium quality anymore and being matched against a GPU that is half what you paid.

Anyway that is only part of the story I could go on and on. But let's not forget these are my issue I have against them feel free to agree or disagree.
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If you look at benchmarks around here quite often the 980TI beats the Titan-X, whats that all about?
 
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Rroff said:
While not in any way supporting nVidia's business practises the TitanX is a card for those who have to have the best no matter the value of it - if someone bought the TX and then was super mad about the 980ti then they probably shouldn't be buying those kind of cards :P

I have no problem with people supporting one company or the other - I can see very valid reasons why people wouldn't touch nVidia with a barge pole - I do wish some people wouldn't just read an AMD PR piece and run to the forums to stick it to nVidia on that basis when at a technical level half the time AMD's PR pieces are hilariously laughable or even bold face lies.

EDIT: That isn't a reflection on the current issues however - but at the same time I'd be cautious writing nVidia off (even though it does not look good) until we actually need these features - as I mentioned they managed to find a way to get some level of pre-emption working in regard to CUDA related stuff on hardware that shouldn't even support it so who knows how things might shape up.
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I don't mind them having a 'best of the best' card they charge a bit of a premium for but lets be honest, they dropped the price by nearly £200 just a month or 2 down the line with the 980ti, that's a bait and switch. Regardless of how the card is marketed and sold (and how easily people eat up the market dribble) there was a clear and hefty money grab at the expense of the consumer at that point. Some people won't care but that doesn't make it okay.

Even if the TX is marketed as the premium Nvidia product then it's not a good sign when they then give that performance to others so quickly after as if you was only there to get ripped off. 99/100 people nowadays would not want a TX based on the prices and the performance difference to the 980ti and even then it wasn't necessary as AMD barely had stock of the fury. Seems like Nvidia were just willing to throw people under the bus and that would be okay if it was just the premium people who don't care but Nvidia has been raising the prices of all there other cards too. Lets be honest, money grab and overcharging is there jam at the moment and we're not going to get rid of that issue until people stop just shrugging there shoulders whenever they kick them in the groin.
 
Insanties_birth said:
I don't mind them having a 'best of the best' card they charge a bit of a premium for but lets be honest, they dropped the price by nearly £200 just a month or 2 down the line with the 980ti, that's a bait and switch. Regardless of how the card is marketed and sold (and how easily people eat up the market dribble) there was a clear and hefty money grab at the expense of the consumer at that point. Some people won't care but that doesn't make it okay.

Even if the TX is marketed as the premium Nvidia product then it's not a good sign when they then give that performance to others so quickly after as if you was only there to get ripped off. 99/100 people nowadays would not want a TX based on the prices and the performance difference to the 980ti and even then it wasn't necessary as AMD barely had stock of the fury. Seems like Nvidia were just willing to throw people under the bus and that would be okay if it was just the premium people who don't care but Nvidia has been raising the prices of all there other cards too. Lets be honest, money grab and overcharging is there jam at the moment and we're not going to get rid of that issue until people stop just shrugging there shoulders whenever they kick them in the groin.
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Nvidia only released the 980ti because they probably found out how much the FuryX was going to cost and where it was going to sit in the market segment. Essentially they wanted to screw over AMD and in the process they screwed a lot of their customers too with the subsequent drop in TX prices and 980ti performance almost matching it.

I guess you could thank competition for the price reductions in this regard.
 
New cards are always released that are faster, sometimes for a lower price. After what happened with the Titan > 780, anyone buying a TX knew there would be a lower ram version coming.

I find it quite amusing that the only people I ever see complain about this are people who not only didn't buy a TitanX but also tend not to even have bought an nvidia card at all. If you are the type of person that complains about TitanX pricing, you aren't the type of person who buys a TitanX. It's a halo product with halo pricing.
 
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andybird123 said:
New cards are always released that are faster, sometimes for a lower price. After what happened with the Titan > 780, anyone buying a TX knew there would be a lower ram version coming.

I find it quite amusing that the only people I ever see complain about this are people who not only didn't buy a TitanX but also tend not to even have bought an nvidia card at all.
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Quite. If anyone gets annoyed about something better and cheaper being released subsequently then frankly they need to find a new hobby because computers and technology in general isn't for them.
 
andybird123 said:
New cards are always released that are faster, sometimes for a lower price. After what happened with the Titan > 780, anyone buying a TX knew there would be a lower ram version coming.

I find it quite amusing that the only people I ever see complain about this are people who not only didn't buy a TitanX but also tend not to even have bought an nvidia card at all. If you are the type of person that complains about TitanX pricing, you aren't the type of person who buys a TitanX. It's a halo product with halo pricing.
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Agreed, but you should know that also applies to FX too.
 
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