OCZ First to support TRIM command on their Vertex SSD drives!

clocka · 6 Apr 2009 at 23:05

Some good news, OCZ will be releasing a new firmware and application to allow use of the TRIM command, if you dont know what the TRIM command is then read this article and see why its needed and will help prolong SSD's life at an optimal speed: http://www.anandtech.com/storage/showdoc.aspx?i=3531

Info about OCZ supporting TRIM command on OCZ Vertex drives:

http://www.ocztechnologyforum.com/forum/showthread.php?t=54373
http://www.cdfreaks.com/news/15771-OCZ-first-to-introduce-TRIM-for-SSD-drives.html

good news indeed

Greenlizard0 · 6 Apr 2009 at 23:19

I get the impression that either OCZ drives are the ones with the most teething problems, or they're very good (and public) about fixing issues with their products..

djay · 6 Apr 2009 at 23:24

Greenlizard0 said:
I get the impression that either OCZ drives are the ones with the most teething problems, or they're very good (and public) about fixing issues with their products..

Read the article that clocka quotes above and you will find it's the latter.

clocka · 6 Apr 2009 at 23:29

yeah, they dont want to be seen as a company who talks about problems behind closed doors so they are now very open and post openly in their forums and to review sites like anandtech in order to give us customers high quality drives and these vertex drives with the latest firmware are very good indeed and will be even better once this TRIM command support is out

New firmware is out in a few days and the application to add support in xp/vista will be out once they fix the vista64bit issues. Hopefully anandtech might re-review the drive with the new firmware, its a very tasty drive, just wish i had enough ££ for the 60GB Vertex. I'll wait on a 60GB Vertex2 Sata3 drive in a few months instead.

iCe-BLaZeD · 7 Apr 2009 at 06:45

Greenlizard0 said:
I get the impression that either OCZ drives are the ones with the most teething problems, or they're very good (and public) about fixing issues with their products..

aye i would definately give http://www.anandtech.com/storage/showdoc.aspx?i=3531 a read if ur interested in SSDs.. it also shows just how good a company OCZ have been with regards to fixing their problems and listening to feedback

Dano · 7 Apr 2009 at 12:57

Very interesting read that, thanks for the link

FaceplantSi · 7 Apr 2009 at 16:04

I'd be interested to see benchies with the new Firmware before I decide to update my drives as they are running just fine at the mo. But thanks for the heads up - I'll keep an eye on the OCZ forums for it.

marscay · 7 Apr 2009 at 16:21

Greenlizard0 said:
I get the impression that either OCZ drives are the ones with the most teething problems, or they're very good (and public) about fixing issues with their products..

they're doing quite a lot to counter the teething problems associated with this newer tech - bundles of info on their forums.

Zarf · 7 Apr 2009 at 19:54

It's a step in the right direction, but useless if you are RAIDing your SSD's until raid card manufacturers release new firmware for the controllers.

clocka · 7 Apr 2009 at 20:09

yep. I reckon Intel and Silicon Image will release updated bioses to support the TRIM command. Lets hope anandtech get those 2 companies to respond to that question.

miniyazz · 8 Apr 2009 at 16:00

It's been bugging me, trying to remember the problem I saw with the TRIM command when I first read Anand's article. Anyway, it just came to me, so: what if the operating system is deleting and writing lots of small files? Take the scenario from Anand's article: 5 pages of data, all of which have to be erased and rewritten to erase one page, using the TRIM command. Suppose the OS actually wants to delete all five pages, but they're done one after the other. Without the TRIM command, the pages are just marked as deleted, and nothing is done to the drive. With the TRIM command, the pages are actually written to and erased five times. Surely this could have a significant impact on the drive's lifespan?
The way to get round this, of course, would have the TRIM command be sent to the SSD to remove deleted pages only when there were no clear pages, or when only 10% of pages left are free, or something like that. At that point, the drive would only have to do one erase cycle to clear that block of five pages, preserving its lifespan. And there would be no drop in performance because the command could be triggered once most empty pages had gone, but while the drive is not really doing anything.

Does that make sense?

FreeStream · 8 Apr 2009 at 17:30

Whats the point in reading and writing 4kb files.

Keep it in main memory if possible!??!

miniyazz · 9 Apr 2009 at 00:09

Concorde Rules said:
Whats the point in reading and writing 4kb files.

Keep it in main memory if possible!??!

eh??

explicit4u · 9 Apr 2009 at 01:39

Concorde Rules said:
Whats the point in reading and writing 4kb files.

Keep it in main memory if possible!??!

OS's do silly things when your not aware.

FaceplantSi · 9 Apr 2009 at 10:32

The new TRIM Firmware is out (thread here). But haveing read through that OCZ thread it doesn't look like the TRIM tool app is ready yet so only the newest versions of Win 7 will have support for it natively. We'll have to wait for OCZ's app to come out or for MS to release patches for XP and Vista before we can take advantage of it.

There's also a new flashing guide (here) and the old method is now available as a pdf download (here) which looks like a great improvement on the old methods - should now be able to do it from a USB stick and there should be a 'dos' version coming soon too. It's all good from OCZ!

uv · 9 Apr 2009 at 11:08

Excellent news. I haven't spent any money for a week due to illness, so may well grab a vertex on payday

I read the anand article the other day, and found it worrying that so many drives were released with what is, imo, a particularly horrific design flaw. It's fantastic that they're pushing it via a firmware update, rather than forcing customers to get new and improved hardware

LeJimster · 9 Apr 2009 at 16:39

I suggest somebody makes a new thread about the new vertex firmware 1.10, with those linkys :-)

. It's refreshing to see active support of a product like this by the manufacturers.

Noto · 9 Apr 2009 at 23:58

Greenlizard0 said:
I get the impression that either OCZ drives are the ones with the most teething problems, or they're very good (and public) about fixing issues with their products..

i 2nd its the later....

[edit] i really should read OP before posting a link he's already posted. /crossfired facepalm

I for one will be getting OCZ now. It was a toss up between intel / OCZ but since OCZ have been so good with public and listening and fixing, they will either match or beat intel all the way with customer support. And good on them Fab +ve press for them!

Adrianr · 10 Apr 2009 at 00:18

Zarf said:
Forcing myself to wait until £1/gb though, or £1.20/gb for pci-e, but it's getting hard.

I was following a similar thought process.. Then I read the Anandtech article and man-logic started rearing it's ugly/beautiful head.

Dano · 10 Apr 2009 at 00:32

Concorde Rules said:
Whats the point in reading and writing 4kb files.

Keep it in main memory if possible!??!

This is what (and I could be barking up the wrong tree on a completely different planet in another universe and reality here...) Vista and Windows 7's readyboost should be getting used for in my opinion, or at least should have an option of doing so.