odd ebay issue as a buyer

GTanny · 22 Nov 2017 at 18:17

just after advice if anyone has been on either end of a similar issue.

So things started easy as I have purchased and recived a board game (Gloomhaven) from eBay and the item was delivered and I am very happy with it.

I have just had an email from the seller saying that the payment has been reversed due to PayPal issues and I will be getting a refund so can I please pay the auction amount to his other PayPal account? my initial reaction was an immediate no as this seems like a scam but I have now had an update on PayPal saying I have been issued with the refund. I have messaged the seller asking if he can update his eBay details as I don't feel comfortable paying outside of eBay but I'm not sure if you can do this post auction.

I try to be an honest person so I have no issue paying for the item (even at the currently inflated eBay prices) both because I wanted the item and he has delivered on his end but I am not willing to pay unless I am confident I will not have any comeback on myself later.

I've had eBay issues in the past but this one is new to me so anyone with advice I would be grateful.

Thekwango · 22 Nov 2017 at 18:30

Have you contacted eBay to see what they advise?

Burned_Alive · 22 Nov 2017 at 18:47

Classic scam tactic. Nope.

Hades · 22 Nov 2017 at 19:01

You pay his other account. He doesn't send the item. You raise a PayPal case. He proves you were refunded on the PayPal account linked to the eBay sale.

Too risky.

Kenai · 22 Nov 2017 at 19:08

Hades said:
You pay his other account. He doesn't send the item. You raise a PayPal case. He proves you were refunded on the PayPal account linked to the eBay sale.

Too risky.

Less risky considering he already received the item.

Hades · 22 Nov 2017 at 19:12

Kenai said:
Less risky considering he already received the item.

Ah. Good point. I shoulda gone to specsavers.

GTanny · 22 Nov 2017 at 19:33

Thekwango said:
Have you contacted eBay to see what they advise?

Not yet as I have the item I don't think I should be doing all the running around on this one, if I get time tomorrow ill see what I can manage.

Thekwango · 22 Nov 2017 at 19:36

Burned_Alive said:
Classic scam tactic. Nope.

What's the scam exactly? The OP already has the item and I assume as it's a board game it's hardly likely to break down at some point? He also has had the refund appear back in his PayPal account?
Is it possible he pays again and then the seller reverses the refund somehow, so the op ends up paying twice.

Thekwango · 22 Nov 2017 at 19:37

GTanny said:
Not yet as I have the item I don't think I should be doing all the running around on this one, if I get time tomorrow ill see what I can manage.

Sending an email is hardly 'running round' and surely puts your mind at rest. Unless you have some physical disability, sending off an email should take about 2 minutes of our time.

pepp77 · 22 Nov 2017 at 19:40

As a minimum just ensure the refund is back in your actual bank account before paying again, but yes sending a message to ebay would be my first route.

silverblack · 22 Nov 2017 at 20:02

I think i would only pay back into the first account.Tell him to get it sorted and then pay again but only if the refund shows in your paypal account.

Dirk Diggler · 22 Nov 2017 at 20:10

Why not put his email address into your spam list and get on with enjoying your board game?

bobbyspangles · 22 Nov 2017 at 20:14

If it's an actual refund of the original payment and not him sending you money then i can't see how this could be a scam. How much was it?

Narj · 22 Nov 2017 at 20:16

Check any refund email is genuine, as mentioned, log in to your bank/PayPal directly to check.

Thekwango · 22 Nov 2017 at 20:16

bobbyspangles said:
How much was it?

jesus it looks like its about 190 quid on amazon....for a board game?! wtactualf

413x · 22 Nov 2017 at 20:32

Congratulations on the game. My gf wants it. It was 100 on launch if I remember!

GTanny · 22 Nov 2017 at 21:13

Thekwango said:
jesus it looks like its about 190 quid on amazon....for a board game?! wtactualf

look into Kingdom Death Monster you can easily spend £600+ for it, sure its around £1000 for the full collection, the games I'm playing are not something you find in toys r us but Gloomhaven is very much on the expensive end of the hobby.

413x said:
Congratulations on the game. My gf wants it. It was 100 on launch if I remember!

I paid £140 which is RRP once it hits retail (wave 2 is already completely sold out) so I was happy with it given its selling for £200 at the moment, it was £100 for the kick-starter but I don't know how much postage was.

String said:
Why not put his email address into your spam list and get on with enjoying your board game?

As I said I don't mind paying I just don't want to pay his new account they get an eBay request for paying the auction too, I know they cant and wont make me pay but its more hassle then its worth.

silverblack said:
I think i would only pay back into the first account. Tell him to get it sorted and then pay again but only if the refund shows in your PayPal account.

Pretty much my plan, if he can update so I pay to his new account through the auction on eBay I will do but I'm not doing any direct transactions just in case.

Thekwango said:
Sending an email is hardly 'running round' and surely puts your mind at rest. Unless you have some physical disability, sending off an email should take about 2 minutes of our time.

that's the plan but I'm waiting for a response from the seller to my initial reply before I contact them myself.

tonym · 22 Nov 2017 at 21:24

I'm guessing he's processed the refund as a cancelled auction, so when you pay into the other account, he's no longer paying Ebay fees?

Oh and Gloomhaven is superb

dowie · 22 Nov 2017 at 21:31

GTanny said:
I have just had an email from the seller saying that the payment has been reversed due to PayPal issues and I will be getting a refund so can I please pay the auction amount to his other PayPal account?

that alone makes no sense - what is with the handwaving "PayPal issues"? I wouldn't appreciate being messed around and would need more details before sending money off to ransoms accounts - why can't you make the payment again to the account linked to the auction?

It seems like a very risky and dumb (from his perspective) way of avoiding auction fees.

Malevolence · 22 Nov 2017 at 21:40

Make sure the refund is kosher, then send him a nice email thanking him for the game.