Off duty cop powers?

Flukester said:
don't be daft man, at 85 I'm not going to slow down and act as a barrier to a tail gating vectra... it's just pure fantasy.

in a car you are protected, I'm not going to use a 180kg bike as a barrier to slow down a 1.5ton car, life is too precious


how could I slow down, I was in the slow lane.... jamming on anchors could have resulted in me being mashed


you would have to be retarded not to understand the situation tbh
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I said slow down, not slam on the brakes. Chances are if you eased back to 70 he would have overtaken you.

I also couldn't care less how vunerable you feel - you do realise there are other modes of transport order than a crotch rocket? If you want to use an excuse for doing dangerous speeds on public roads, you'll need a better one than that
 
he's bragged about doing those sorts of speeds plenty of times, he needs no excuse.

i've given up arguing with him now as he's adament he's doing nothing wrong and is intent on killing himself so leave him be.
 
MrLOL said:
he's bragged about doing those sorts of speeds plenty of times, he needs no excuse.

i've given up arguing with him now as he's adament he's doing nothing wrong and is intent on killing himself so leave him be.
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He's more than welcome to kill himself, it's everyone else involved that bothers me!
 
If the motorway was empty, what's the big deal?
Bikes can reach silly speeds much quicker than cars, so it's not like he was on full throttle for 10 miles.
 
The motorway wasn't empty, there was at least one other car there.

It's also irrelevant how quickly you can get to those speeds, they're simply not appropriate for British roads, whatever deluded paranoia is going on in your head
 
Westyfield2 said:
Personally I wouldn't stop for an "Undercover Cop" under any circumstances, even if the car had blue lights etc. Mainly due to that story a few years ago when that G4S bloke had his family held at gunpoint after stopping for a car claiming to be police (flashing blues etc) but actually turned out to be armed thieves.
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MrLOL said:
you wouldnt stop for an unmarked police car ?

****ing hell, you could possibly get yourself in some right trouble with that attitude :rolleyes:
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<Assuming that was aimed at me as they were consecutive posts>

Definitely. There is no way I'm gonna pull over for an "unmarked police" car. They can flash their pretty blue lights and sit on my tail all they want, but until uniform turn up in a marked car I ain't stopping. Any scummer could fit blue LEDs to their car and wear a high-vis jacket.

I've found the news story I was refering to. It was Securitas not G4S (humble apologies, I was tired etc.)

To quote from the Wikipedia Article: "The manager of the depot, Colin Dixon, was abducted at about 18:30 on 21 February, while driving his silver Nissan Almera. He was pulled over on the A249 just outside Stockbury, a village North East of Maidstone, by what he thought was an unmarked police vehicle, due to the blue lights behind the front grill. A man approached him in high-visibility clothing and a police-style hat. The manager proceeded to get into the police impostor's car, thinking that he was a police officer, where he was then handcuffed by others in the vehicle. He was then driven west on the M20 motorway to the West Malling bypass, where he was bound further, transferred into a white van and transported to a farm in Staplehurst, Kent.
As this was taking place, the manager's wife and eight-year-old son were being held hostage at their home in Herne Bay, after they answered the door to men dressed in police uniforms, who falsely informed them that the manager had been involved in a road traffic accident. They were then driven to the farm at which the manager was being held, where he was told, at gunpoint, that failure to cooperate could put him and his family in danger."


I know that once inside the "unmarked police car" you could demand to see their warrant card, but by then you've already got a gun pointed at you.
 
Westyfield2 said:
<Assuming that was aimed at me as they were consecutive posts>

Definitely. There is no way I'm gonna pull over for an "unmarked police" car. They can flash their pretty blue lights and sit on my tail all they want, but until uniform turn up in a marked car I ain't stopping. Any scummer could fit blue LEDs to their car and wear a high-vis jacket
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I know the story and still think your mental.
 
trentlad said:
Bah.. just sounds like a regular BMW driver to me... doing the regular thing that BMW drivers do.

See I used to love BMWs but with this reputation I would never drive one now.
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Are you off German cars in general or just BMW?
 
Westyfield2 said:
I know that once inside the "unmarked police car" you could demand to see their warrant card, but by then you've already got a gun pointed at you.
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While I know nothing about what you do it seems to me that would be the story that (dis)proves the rule - unless you're in a job that makes you a particular target or there are otherwise specific reasons why you'd be targeted it seems a shade unlikely to me that anyone is going to go to the trouble of impersonating a police officer and chasing you down. I may be wrong on this but I'd suspect the odds are with me on this one about the number of times it'll be a genuine unmarked police car vs some chancer trying to abduct you.
 
semi-pro waster said:
I'd suspect the odds are with me on this one about the number of times it'll be a genuine unmarked police car vs some chancer trying to abduct you.
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Oh I agree with you entirely :). It's just thinking about that one time when it's not.... :eek:


I guess ringing 999 and asking "Is WX07 OTC on the M4 right now a genuine unmarked police car or a scummer trying to abduct me?" would be the right thing to do.
 
MrLOL said:
thats if they havent used a stinger on you by that point thinking your some kind of drug dealer on the run.
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Which hopefully would be deployed from a marked car not the unmarked car on your tail, and as I said previously as-soon as a marked car with uniform turns up I'd obviously stop :).
 
Westyfield2 said:
Oh I agree with you entirely :). It's just thinking about that one time when it's not.... :eek:


I guess ringing 999 and asking "Is WX07 OTC on the M4 right now a genuine unmarked police car or a scummer trying to abduct me?" would be the right thing to do.
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is that urgent enough for 999? i would have thought it was a 112 at best tbh
 
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