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Surely that's an engine mode / car setting - irrespective of the required result?
I thought that had to all be done via the steering wheel / driver input. Or has there been a change in the regulations to allow it now.
Poll: Official 2023 Hungarian Grand Prix Thread - Hungaroring, Budapest - Round 12
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I thought that had to all be done via the steering wheel / driver input. Or has there been a change in the regulations to allow it now.
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I rather liked the set compounds for the various stages of qualifying and was surprised to see only 1.1 seconds separating the whole field.
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Lots of jealousy towards RB and Max
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Yeah, I thought it worked brilliantly. Made the sessions more distinct, mixed things up between the teams, and probably contributed to immensely close final deciding laps.
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Really? did not know that
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It was the same for Schumacher (Ferrari), Vettel (RBR) and Hamilton when they were dominating F1.
The commentators touched on this during the race - the pit wall are allowed to make adjustments to the car if it is for safety / reliability reasons. Given how dog slow the car was on the straights compared to quali, my assumption is they changed the balances / engine modes to reduce the heat issues.
As the car got lighter / less fuel load and temperatures came down, I assume they were able to unwind those changes which is why we saw Russell and Ham make much bigger gains at the end of the race (Ham was reeling in Perez in a car that was 30seconds ahead of the rest of the pack).
Soldato
That one time that you do stop watching it is probably the time you see Hamilton start from the pits and win the race beating max in the last straight in spa and then u see norris slip stream passed max too finishing 2nd
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Same with Hamilton
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I think its more Horner comes across as a bit of an idiot come F1 weekend. Outside of F1 I enjoy listening to him. Max was and still is to a lesser extent a spoilt child who is used to getting his own way. He is maturing for sure but he’s still a bit of dick. Lewis was similar when him and Massa were falling out. I imagine Max gets his behaviour from his father.
As for the dominence I am a great believer the best drivers get the best cars
Max and Lewis are both box office when they are performing qat the top of thier game. Think Max in qually at Saudi 2021, even though I am a Lewis fan that lap was mesmerisingI voted a 5. Hungary can give you these sort of stalemate races where they can't really get close enough to challenge. I think this track highlights that the "improved" airflow designs to allow closer following, isn't really working that well. Look at Russell's overtake when he utilized a wide line to get out of the dirty air on the Ferrari for example.
I think Lewis did the best he could. The Merc all weekend was not great on the mediums so I thought he would go backwards initially. Perhaps would have been different if he stayed ahead of the Mclarens early on. Merc were definitely battling cooling issues as well. In the right window, the car is there and can be the second fastest team.
Overall, teams are starting to claw back the gap to Redbull. I think potentially towards the end of next season we might start to see regular challenges for wins from people other than Max. 2025 could be the next super season where most teams have squeezed the most they can out of this current reg period. Hopefully Redbull had such a good base car, that there is only so much more development and speed they can add.
Max will have the championship done in a couple of races I expect, then we look forward to next season really.
I think Lewis did the best he could. The Merc all weekend was not great on the mediums so I thought he would go backwards initially. Perhaps would have been different if he stayed ahead of the Mclarens early on. Merc were definitely battling cooling issues as well. In the right window, the car is there and can be the second fastest team.
Overall, teams are starting to claw back the gap to Redbull. I think potentially towards the end of next season we might start to see regular challenges for wins from people other than Max. 2025 could be the next super season where most teams have squeezed the most they can out of this current reg period. Hopefully Redbull had such a good base car, that there is only so much more development and speed they can add.
Max will have the championship done in a couple of races I expect, then we look forward to next season really.
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Claw back? He was over 30 second ahead of 2nd
Point taken... yeah true.
Starting to claw back maybe a bit? Imagine if Max is driving at 80% and they can win by a minute though. :O
It pains me to say it but I’d be surprised if they were even maxing the engine. Less chance of a nerf if you pretend you’re slower than you are..Point taken... yeah true.
Starting to claw back maybe a bit? Imagine if Max is driving at 80% and they can win by a minute though. :O
Exactly. I wanted Hamilton to win but it was still mostly boring as balls throughout those years.. It’s not like they’re mutually exclusive.
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That was partly caused by Max being able to use the optimal tyre strategy, wheras Lewis pitting early forced both McLarens to stop before would have been ideal for them.
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Why didn't they keep to the same rules from 2021 as we finally saw two close teams fight it out?Exactly. I wanted Hamilton to win but it was still mostly boring as balls throughout those years.. It’s not like they’re mutually exclusive.
F1 has bigger problems than RB and Max. During the racing when top 10 places were occupied by teams following each other, none of the the drivers attempted to close the gap and overtake their team mate. F1 is now only about pit stop undertakes and tyre strategy. If RB didn't turn up to the next race, it would still be another borefest.
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F1 has bigger problems than RB and Max. During the racing when top 10 places were occupied by teams following each other, none of the the drivers attempted to close the gap and overtake their team mate. F1 is now only about pit stop undertakes and tyre strategy. If RB didn't turn up to the next race, it would still be another borefest.
And how many times has that occurred this season? once? For a small part of a race?
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My point is the focus\blame is mostly on the perforamnce gap between manufacturers, but drivers in the same cars aren't even trying to catch and overtake each other on the track.
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