I guess - figured that was historically more for knocks. Does incentivise dangerous moves but Charles probably didn't have the legs for 2nd anyway.
Poll: Official 2023 United States Grand Prix Thread - Circuit of the Americas, Austin - Round 19
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Russell’s was a full overtake off the track whereas Hamilton only went full 4 wheels off track in reaction to LeClerc’s little jerk to the right. LeClerc did leave enough room still but I guess bettrr safe than sorry and they let it go as they tend to more lenient at T1.
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If it wasn't for Sainz holding up Lando Charles wouldn't have had the legs for 3rd either. Carlos played a blinder...
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The opposite, I think. Better that Lewis took a little bit of off-track than collided with Leclerc in an attempt to keep his position.
I'm sure the MV fans will come along and explain the rules that say once you have a smidgen of wheel in front you're free to push the other driver off the road, or something... He definitely wasn't a full car in front (or even half a car?), and bearing in mind it's a drag race to the first corner (1) Leclerc has the right to fight it and (2) that in turn means MV should leave space for Leclerc to remain on track. Which he didn't, twice, before they reached the first corner.
Leclerc should have at least called it out on the radio seen as he had to take such drastic avoiding action.
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This is actually the first time I've ever seen the driver in first squeeze someone trying to overtake them at the start - literally has never happened in the history of the sport. Max is a true innovator; can't believe in the history of F1 that no other driver has ever done this - class of his own.I'm sure the MV fans will come along and explain the rules that say once you have a smidgen of wheel in front you're free to push the other driver off the road, or something... He definitely wasn't a full car in front (or even half a car?), and bearing in mind it's a drag race to the first corner (1) Leclerc has the right to fight it and (2) that in turn means MV should leave space for Leclerc to remain on track. Which he didn't, twice, before they reached the first corner.
Leclerc should have at least called it out on the radio seen as he had to take such drastic avoiding action.
In a perfect world they'd back off where they know they're not going to make it, but I can think of very few F1 drivers who aren't going to push for every inch so it probably is the only compromise.
Max didn't "force him" to do anything, Max moved over to cover Charles off (Max was always ahead) and Charles tried to overtake off the circuit. Charles could have lifted.
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In some cases, sure, but looking at the replay of Leclerc/Lewis in the video above I think Lewis was fully alongside and Leclerc should have given him room.
He was certainly further alongside than George was. Charles mentioned post-race that he didn't fully see Lewis and mostly just understeered wide given how tight he was on the corner.
You can’t argue he didn’t force him off the circuit. Whether or not that’s fair on a start straight I’m not sure either way and it probably comes down to how far ahead Max was. Which is hard to see from the replay angles. The way I see it was that at least part of their cars were alongside, Max steered left and kept steering left until Charles was off the circuit. Once just after the wall, and continued after the pit exit. Charles had two options- slam on the brakes and let Max through (not gonna happen), or steer left to avoid the collision.
I don’t disagree with what Max did up until a point - as it happens at every race start. I’m querying why it’s acceptable to not leave the space for Charles. He already ruined his line into turn one, the job was done.
Worst sprint of the year? Id say so.
At least MV is in the front row for the race.
Thought Sainz did well. I soft actually.
Glad someone went soft. Because would have been even worse otherwise
Not a fan of the tyre allocation. I feel this limits how much people try in the sprint.
At least MV is in the front row for the race.
Thought Sainz did well. I soft actually.
Glad someone went soft. Because would have been even worse otherwise
Not a fan of the tyre allocation. I feel this limits how much people try in the sprint.
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Looking at 6-7s into the video linked above, Charles wasn't alongside. Max closes the door before he gets there:
He's entitled to do that.
That’s what I thought but as Scam says Charles had knackered himself anyway by having such an odd angle into turn 1.Looking at 6-7s into the video linked above, Charles wasn't alongside. Max closes the door before he gets there:
He's entitled to do that.
If you watch both, they are very different scenarios really. Hamilton had the traction and was alongside and moving faster. He only went over the line because Leclerc moved more over to the right.
George was simply aiming for a gap that was never going to be there/pulling a move that would have only worked by going off the track.
Couple that with the normal first corner leniency and I think that's why.
It was dull. Not only that, but it highlighted the large drawback of sprint races..
We now know that unless there are collisions or mechanical issues, Max will definitely win (yes I know we would have known that anyway for this season
) , but we also know that Lewis will take second, and third will almost certainly be Leclerc or Norris.At least before, we were unsure of how each cars tyre wear and race pace would work out. Now we know that Max and Lewis are loads faster than everyone else here.
They can tend to just spoil things in advance.
They need some sort of reverse grid (at least for the top 10). This would make it a bit more interesting and help to obfuscate things more ahead of Sunday.
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Yeah.It was dull. Not only that, but it highlighted the large drawback of sprint races..
We now know that unless there are collisions or mechanical issues, Max will definitely win (yes I know we would have known that anyway for this season
At least before, we were unsure of how each cars tyre wear and race pace would work out. Now we know that Max and Lewis are loads faster than everyone else here.
They can tend to just spoil things in advance.
So far sprints have been better than races.. So this doesn't bode well.
I'm torn. I prefer the sprint. But I think I'd rather some reverse grid or something. Because otherwise, like you say, it tells you too much about the race
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Huh? He’s sixth.
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F1 drivers don't often seem to see backing out as an option and they really should - especially if you're likely the one to come off the worst from any collision or have more to lose.
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