Official 2024 Sao Paulo Grand Prix Race Thread - Autódromo José Carlos Pace - Race 21/24

lol quali delayed so lets replay the sprint race....i guess we know how long the delay is now :D

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Maybe they should actually have a sprint race for qualifying instead of Q1 Q2 Q3. Ditch those, apart from the first race of the year then the next weekends "sprint" qualifying positioning is determined by the race position from the weekend before
 
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imtoooldforthis said:
His aggression levels in races have been mostly fine except in a few examples against Max. Most people are more cautious around Max, he's the toughest cookie to crack. The starts are a weakness but that is something that can be worked on and improved, it's not some fundamental flaw like being slow.

I agree that he perhaps doesn't have the same fight/mentality as the three drivers you mentioned but you've named three of the greatest drivers in the history of the sport. There are tons of F1 champions who are not on their level.

Pace is more important than 'vibes' and Lando has it in buckets, no reason he can't win a title or two provided he gets the car to do so and continues to improve on his weak areas.
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You could simply delete Lando's name from his post and insert any competitor to almighty Max. He mentioned he'd rather Leclerc, who from memory made loads of mistakes last season. But like most Max fans, he has a very selective memory to suite an any given narrative. A bit like Horner, really.
 
Uhhhhh... What?


Trickery with water in the tire?

2024 Brazilian GP

After discussions about the McLaren rear wings in Baku and the Red Bull skid adjustment in Austin, the two World Championship rivals are again going head to head in Brazil. This time it's about water in the tires. We explain the background.

The ping-pong game between the World Championship rivals continues. After the race in Baku, Red Bull complained about a rear wing flap on the McLaren that was obviously too flexible. In fact, the flap ends bent upwards above a certain load, thereby increasing the gap between the main blade and the flap. The FIA asked McLaren and two other teams to stop this.

In Austin, McLaren fired back. The focus was on a mechanism in the cockpit that allows Red Bull to easily adjust the height of the underbody skid. From McLaren's point of view, it's too easy. The championship leader expressed the suspicion that this could be used to secretly adjust the preload of the bracket and thus the ground clearance of the skid in the parc fermé.

The FIA declared the mechanism to be legal, but now, before every parc fermé, it sticks a seal over the adjusting screw, which can only be accessed with a tool. This is intended to remove the basis for allegations of fraud.

FIA investigates the allegations

In Brazil, Red Bull was once again in the role of the accuser. This time it was about filling the tires with water. The trick is supposed to help cool the tires better from the inside over long distances. The water is supposed to be injected through the valves. Apparently even small amounts achieve the desired effect. Several teams are said to be benefiting from this practice in the long run, including McLaren.

The FIA is already investigating the allegations. There were no suspicious observations at the last two races in Austin and Mexico City. Pirelli would have to report the slightest irregularities to the FIA's technical stewards. According to the Italian tire manufacturer, however, there has not been a single suspicious occurrence this year.

Neither Pirelli nor the FIA want to comment officially on the case. However, behind closed doors it is said that the story is considered to be just another storm in a teacup.

How does water get into the tires?

When using the trick, the first question must be how the water is supposed to get into the tires without Pirelli noticing. And how the water is supposed to disappear after the race other than through evaporation. Tires and rims are coded. The FIA randomly assigns the tires to the rims registered by the teams. The tires are mounted and dismounted by Pirelli's service technicians.

Once the tires have been fitted, no team is allowed to tamper with them. The teams themselves do not have the tools to remove tires from the rim and put them back on. Tires cannot be reused once they have been removed. The only way to add water is through the valve. But injecting fluids unnoticed would be extremely difficult given the number of guards and Pirelli engineers in the garages.

Such a trick would also be extremely risky. If the water does not evaporate in the three to four hours after the race before the tires are removed, you will quickly come under suspicion. Apparently, Red Bull itself experimented with water in the tires many years ago. At the time, the trick was not explicitly forbidden. But the FIA promptly closed this loophole. In the defending champion's camp, it is now assumed that former Red Bull employees have pulled out the trick again and refined it with their new teams.
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Sweepers currently on track dealing with the largest puddles.

[edit] Medical car currently on track as well doing laps.
 
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Hulkenberg's retirement info. Oil leaked from the gearbox. They were lucky as the engineers say with a bit of bad luck the car could have burnt to the ground.
 
Mr Jack said:
If Quali can't happen today, then it's rescheduled to tomorrow. If that's not possible they usually default to practice times, but I don't know what happens on a sprint weekend.
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According to Belgium 2023, they would use Championship standings.
 
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